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TOPIC: Vet Question on Club Foot

Vet Question on Club Foot 11 May 2012 03:19 #1

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How is it determined when surgery on the check ligiment is needed? I have seen two foals with stance the same, one was cut, the other one wasn't. Also is a genitic problem taken into consideration when deciding to have surgery or not?
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What part of "NO" don't you understand!!

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Re: Vet Question on Club Foot 11 May 2012 05:43 #2

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I believe they are graded from 1 to 5 in terms of severity with 5 being the worst then surgery is a possibility.
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Re: Vet Question on Club Foot 11 May 2012 13:49 #3

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I understand how club foot is graded - by the way there are 4 grades. I want to know how vets determine when and when not to cut.
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Re: Vet Question on Club Foot 12 May 2012 17:27 #4

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It depends on how "whiney"/foolish the owner is as to the motivation of the Vets toward surgery around here. I've done pre-op/post-op care on grades 1 thru 4 at the 2 clinics I'm associated with. My complaints have always been, the Vets do no genetic counselling with the owners and/or euthanaisa recommendations.

The prevalence of these "club feet" is growing at such a rate with these i d i o t breeders that it has become the "norm" not the exception.
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Re: Vet Question on Club Foot 13 May 2012 13:27 #5

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So in other words, you see no selective rime nor reason to the selection of those cut on and those not?

I got to agree with the breeder thing. Here I see more and more club foot foals.
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It depends on how "whiney"/foolish the owner is as to the motivation of the Vets toward surgery around here. I've done pre-op/post-op care on grades 1 thru 4 at the 2 clinics I'm associated with. My complaints have always been, the Vets do no genetic counselling with the owners and/or euthanaisa recommendations.

The prevalence of these "club feet" is growing at such a rate with these i d i o t breeders that it has become the "norm" not the exception.
Mikel Dawson, RJF

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What part of "NO" don't you understand!!

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Re: Vet Question on Club Foot 14 May 2012 13:13 #6

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Mikel, Whether or not to cut seems to soley rely on the amount of money available to the owner. After following these "surgery" horses into their performance careers, I have not been overly impressed. Maybe they still would have been dinks even without a club foot, surgery or not. Most should have never been born and the ones allow to live should be neutered before their 1st birthday, male and female, no exceptions now, no matter how much they cost! Otherwise, drastically asymmetrical horses are all we'll have...
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Re: Vet Question on Club Foot 14 May 2012 15:20 #7

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I got a good smile out of your post. My thoughts exactly!! Only problem is most owners can't see the problems themselves.
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Mikel, Whether or not to cut seems to soley rely on the amount of money available to the owner. After following these "surgery" horses into their performance careers, I have not been overly impressed. Maybe they still would have been dinks even without a club foot, surgery or not. Most should have never been born and the ones allow to live should be neutered before their 1st birthday, male and female, no exceptions now, no matter how much they cost! Otherwise, drastically asymmetrical horses are all we'll have...
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Re: Vet Question on Club Foot 14 May 2012 16:03 #8

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My crusade is to charge them enough, painfully so, for helping their horse be useable, that they won't want to travel down that path ever again with another one. There seems to be a never ending supply, once word got out, that I often can make these club footed things comfortable. Some days that's all I'll see from 9am to 5pm.
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Re: Vet Question on Club Foot 14 May 2012 20:58 #9

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And interesting short treatise:
www.nanric.com/Howtotreatclubfeet.asp
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Re: Vet Question on Club Foot 15 May 2012 01:46 #10

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Rick, that pretty much covers it. The biggest thing for me, is to determine what portion of the foot will tolerating loading. Then how much you can safely reduce any leverage in the toe (sometimes banana shoes)without losing stability.
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