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Re: Negative palmar angle 21 Feb 2012 21:06 #76

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Guys, this ain't Jack. Jack ain't going to be around, get it? Show a little fricken respect!
It seems a little fricken disrespectful to imply that they don't know Jack. :pc:
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Re: Negative palmar angle 21 Feb 2012 22:03 #77

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BS-Horseshoeing wrote:
Guys, this ain't Jack.
True. Its his doppelganger ........... ;)
Jack ain't going to be around, get it?
Perhaps the/our sarcastic reference to the absent but not missed one, has not been evident to you? Regardless, as regards so much of what is said here, to borrow a phrase from Lincoln, "The world will little note, nor long remember what we say here........" ;)
Show a little fricken respect!
Respect is earned. In this case, at least as far as I'm concerned, that has not occurred. ymmv.
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Re: Negative palmar angle 21 Feb 2012 23:45 #78

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It seem your hell bent on tormenting me in bad taste.Thats fine it will come back to bite you ten fold.
George NB would have to be one of the worst example of purposely setting out to deform horses hooves.There is no just reasoning behind applying NB shoes to every horse you shoe other then Not knowing how to shoe otherwise.Heel hight really is not that important if your setting out to mutilate their hooves in the first place.

I thought I was being very respectful. You on the other hand are not. Ok so you are Jack's brother Owen. Fine.

So owen. Perhaps you could inform us about what are your guidelines/protocol to assess and achieve proper balance. Your brother Jack was unable to do so he could only make viscous personal attacks and ad hominum arguments generally while in a drunken rage. Since you are a completely different person you should be able to in a reasonable respectful manner discuss proper balance that can prevent or remediate the Negative Palmer angles we are discussing in this thread.

I look forward to hearing your ideas on this topic as you and I have never interacted on this forum before and I am genuinely interested in your thoughts on balance and negative palmer angles.
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Re: Negative palmar angle 22 Feb 2012 01:10 #79

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I thought I was being very respectful. You on the other hand are not. Ok so you are Jack's brother Owen. Fine.

This dude is not jacks brother its jack for sure. And he's the same rude son of a gun. I think you are being very respectful georgie my friend but why even bother to discuss Natural Balance with this guy. I don't practice NB myself but I respect those who do and I pay a lot of attention to ducketts bridge and the distribution of the foot in front and behind it. But in all seriousness george save your breath and move on to another thread without this guy in it.
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Re: Negative palmar angle 22 Feb 2012 02:20 #80

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All right, here it is, Jack's dead from what I've heard. His family didn't want it on here cause of the way they felt he was treated and it wasn't his wish for this place to know. But since you guys think I'm being disrepectful, here it is. It is not respectful to speak ill of the dead. If Jack's really dead folks, give it a rest and just bust Owen's chops without bringing his brother into it. I'm done with this, if you guys want to be that way it ain't worth being here anymore.

Jack was a pain in the a$$ and Owen could be to, but keep it to Owen.
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Re: Negative palmar angle 22 Feb 2012 03:35 #81

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everypersonisahorsetoo wrote:
Dances with Hooves wrote:
I thought I was being very respectful. You on the other hand are not. Ok so you are Jack's brother Owen. Fine.

This dude is not jacks brother its jack for sure. And he's the same rude son of a gun. I think you are being very respectful georgie my friend but why even bother to discuss Natural Balance with this guy. I don't practice NB myself but I respect those who do and I pay a lot of attention to ducketts bridge and the distribution of the foot in front and behind it. But in all seriousness george save your breath and move on to another thread without this guy in it.
Hernando Alonzo!! Oh yes!!! I remember you now!.Your a very close friend of my family.We had you & slow poke rodriguez over for dinner just the other night. You both commented on how sweet the corn was. :huh: :blink: Looney Tune.
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Re: Negative palmar angle 22 Feb 2012 04:08 #82

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Dances with Hooves wrote:

At all times the sole is parallel to the coffin bone as Tom B mentions.

Huh? What does this have to do with balance? If any bone is crooked you wouldn't want the sole to be parallel.
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Re: Negative palmar angle 22 Feb 2012 09:34 #83

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BS-Horseshoeing wrote:
. . . It is not respectful to speak ill of the dead.
BS-Horseshoeing wrote:
Jack was a pain in the a$$ . . .

:pc:
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Re: Negative palmar angle 22 Feb 2012 09:40 #84

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Eric Russell wrote:
Dances with Hooves wrote:

At all times the sole is parallel to the coffin bone as Tom B mentions.

Huh? What does this have to do with balance?
Nothing. You missed the context.
If any bone is crooked you wouldn't want the sole to be parallel.
I don't think the sole cares about what any bone besides P3 is doing. Since it grows from the bottom of P3, the only time I've seen the sole not parallel to the coffin bone is when there's an abscess pushing them apart somewhere.
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Re: Negative palmar angle 22 Feb 2012 10:31 #85

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Hernando Alonzo!! Oh yes!!! I remember you now!.Your a very close friend of my family.We had you & slow poke rodriguez over for dinner just the other night. You both commented on how sweet the corn was. :huh: :blink: Looney Tune.

Some of the finest corn I have ever tasted. And the tequila in Australia is just amazing!!

Stay thirsty my friends!

OMG if Owen thinks I am a loony tune I must really be friken crazy! :bs:
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Re: Negative palmar angle 22 Feb 2012 13:44 #86

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tbloomer wrote:
Eric Russell wrote:
Dances with Hooves wrote:

At all times the sole is parallel to the coffin bone as Tom B mentions.

Huh? What does this have to do with balance?
Nothing. You missed the context.
If any bone is crooked you wouldn't want the sole to be parallel.
I don't think the sole cares about what any bone besides P3 is doing. Since it grows from the bottom of P3, the only time I've seen the sole not parallel to the coffin bone is when there's an abscess pushing them apart somewhere.
I will match Erics Huh? & rase you anther two Huh?.Who's for corn chips! I think there is something you should all know & I will share it with you right here & now .I like mine spicy!!!. :lol: No need to worry any more about any P3 poking out like a turtle neck during a bad case of founder. I'm glade we got that sorted :cheer:
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Re: Negative palmar angle 22 Feb 2012 13:52 #87

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tbloomer wrote:
BS-Horseshoeing wrote:
. . . It is not respectful to speak ill of the dead.
BS-Horseshoeing wrote:
Jack was a pain in the a$$ . . .

:pc:

Yes I know Tom but that's all I've said, these others are doing this on this thread and a couple others. If you think it's ok go right ahead and talk like it's Jack, but I won't, I've had my say and the childish way this has been going on is a bit ridiculous. If the man's dead, then let him be.
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Re: Negative palmar angle 22 Feb 2012 14:03 #88

tbloomer wrote:
Eric Russell wrote:
Dances with Hooves wrote:

At all times the sole is parallel to the coffin bone as Tom B mentions.

Huh? What does this have to do with balance?
Nothing. You missed the context.
If any bone is crooked you wouldn't want the sole to be parallel.
I don't think the sole cares about what any bone besides P3 is doing. Since it grows from the bottom of P3, the only time I've seen the sole not parallel to the coffin bone is when there's an abscess pushing them apart somewhere.

Interesting idea Tom. Look up "solar corium" when you get the chance. ;)

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Re: Negative palmar angle 22 Feb 2012 14:34 #89

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Moving right along to Arts & crafts.
While I was free style surfing I came across this little gem. Its a wonderful creative example of modern Art.It has all the hall marks of great penmanship & artistic flair for detail.

The hoof in the vid is some what contracted.Where would the widest part of the hoof be if it wasn't contracted.OH MY the marks must wrong lol.What a slick vid on garbage.
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Re: Negative palmar angle 22 Feb 2012 14:41 #90

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Western Hill Forge wrote:
tbloomer wrote:
Eric Russell wrote:
Dances with Hooves wrote:

At all times the sole is parallel to the coffin bone as Tom B mentions.

Huh? What does this have to do with balance?
Nothing. You missed the context.
If any bone is crooked you wouldn't want the sole to be parallel.
I don't think the sole cares about what any bone besides P3 is doing. Since it grows from the bottom of P3, the only time I've seen the sole not parallel to the coffin bone is when there's an abscess pushing them apart somewhere.

Interesting idea Tom. Look up "solar corium" when you get the chance. ;)

Regards
The solar corium is not part of the sole? Who knew?

Try reading more of the thread Einstein.
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