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TOPIC: Rolling over on Lateral - Badly

Rolling over on Lateral - Badly 19 Jun 2011 13:41 #1

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New client . This particular horse is rolling over on his lateral wall. When he steps forward he lands on the lateral and literally tries to stand on that edge. The previous Farrier, a local guy I know of, has been trying to sort him out over the last six months. He shod him in an eggbar. The horse has also foundered on the other foot.

I have asked the lady to get some x-rays. He has a hard lump on his fetlock that appears to be maybe calcified. When I picked the leg up the the foot hangs of at a 30 degree angle. I pulled the shoe and trimmed off a good inch - inch and a half and got him standing what looked comfortable for him. I started by leveling the foot to the heels and the lowered the medial till he was standing on the whole foot. As you can see I had to take him out on the road to get out of the mud and he went from hopping lame to actually walking happily?.

Pending x-ray what else do you think I could do for this guy? Oh the shoe was put on eight weeks ago.
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RE:Rolling over on Lateral - Badly 19 Jun 2011 14:04 #2

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It's hard to give any advice with the pictures you posted. What leg is this, (LF?) is the horse standing straight, and do you have any pictures of the whole horse from the front?

Before you get too far into this, you said this has been on the horse for only 8 weeks? (Seems a little doubtfull personally,but...) If this lady isn't willing to get this horse reset on more of a 4-5 week schedule don't waste your time. It will drag on forever and you won't ever really get anywhere with it.
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RE:Rolling over on Lateral - Badly 19 Jun 2011 14:24 #3

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Joey your hundred percent right. I got that impression from her yesterday and felt it might be the case that she wont want to get to deep into it, especially with founder already in the right front. Yes it is the left front. Apologies for the pictures. I am going back during the week and will get some better ones. It was so bright I couldn't see the screen on the phone. Surprised I got what I did. Did I mention he lives in a junk yard!

It didnt look like eight weeks to me either. We did discuss euthanasia, she brought it up and is going to talk it through with her vet tomorrow. So it might all be mute. I realize that at best I am looking at a maintaince case.
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RE:Rolling over on Lateral - Badly 19 Jun 2011 14:36 #4

Joey Aczon wrote:
It's hard to give any advice with the pictures you posted. What leg is this, (LF?) is the horse standing straight, and do you have any pictures of the whole horse from the front?

Before you get too far into this, you said this has been on the horse for only 8 weeks? (Seems a little doubtfull personally,but...) If this lady isn't willing to get this horse reset on more of a 4-5 week schedule don't waste your time. It will drag on forever and you won't ever really get anywhere with it.

i agree. i think that also seeing pics of the whole horse would show some conformation issues that most likely exist. keep us posted and good luck
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RE:Rolling over on Lateral - Badly 19 Jun 2011 14:55 #5

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You're gonna have to just wing it this first time around. Dress the hell out of the medial side and fit that lateral side waay wide and keep your nails well forward of the widest part of the foot. (If using a keg, I'd probalby repunch the lateral branch) I'd also grind/hammer a roll from the lat toe to the medial heel just for good measure.

A bar shoe is probably a good idea although I would opt for a straightbar or a heartbar. Sole/frog support is definately indicated IMO especially if you go with an open heeled shoe.

After a cycle or two you should be able to see what need to be done better. Just try to remember to fit the shoe where the foot "should" be.
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RE:Rolling over on Lateral - Badly 19 Jun 2011 15:03 #6

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If you can get this leg under himself better he'll have a better time with the founder in the other foot too.

Considering that he is foundered in the other foot, I'd probalby opt for a pair of heartbars. Make them or buy some ironcraft blanks so you can punch/fuller them as needed.

I have some pics in my albums of a horse with a badly rolled under (and sheared) medial wall on a hind. He has a perfectly normal foot now.
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RE:Rolling over on Lateral - Badly 21 Jun 2011 06:47 #7

First find out why this foot turned out this way. Than decide wether or not you need to get this foot back up straight or not. (I shod a Dry Doc mare for years with a foot like this. She was fine as long as lateral support was provided and nobody tried to "normalize" the situation.)

From the pics it looks like this is more than a maintenance problem. One sided sinker might be a cause, some kind of collateral ligament problem perhaps? Anyway, be sure to get X rays first.



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