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RE:Keratoma? 13 May 2011 14:55 #31

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What did thay teach you in school?:eek::rolleyes: Can you get a refund?

Well, was the advice of my Farrier. :confused:

He had not looked at it so I supposed he was not fully informed. I thought it should be wrapped longer, but he said it had been a week so should be fine with as dry as it was. :(

I treated again this morning with wash and Koppertox. There was some prolapsing. Great now I feel bad about not going with my gut. There was some soil around it I had to clean out, but no smell and area was still pink and would bleed slighty so still live.

What is the chance of infection since it was left unwrapped over night?? Did the Koppertox hopefully arrest any possible infection??
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RE:Keratoma? 14 May 2011 11:29 #32

I wouldn't put Kopertox in an open wound. It kills tissue, I have been told, as well as stings. Same with Iodine and Peroxide. I would clean with diluted iodine or betadine, wrap, or hospital plate with sterile dressing till the wound heals and dries up.

To be safe, ask your vet - I'm just an amateur. This could turn really bad really quickly. Good luck.

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RE:Keratoma? 14 May 2011 23:47 #33

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I wouldn't put Kopertox in an open wound. It kills tissue, I have been told, as well as stings. Same with Iodine and Peroxide. I would clean with diluted iodine or betadine, wrap, or hospital plate with sterile dressing till the wound heals and dries up.

To be safe, ask your vet - I'm just an amateur. This could turn really bad really quickly. Good luck.

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Took your advice and went and saw the Vet. He said was proud flesh, and gave my some caustic stuff to burn it off. Keep it wrapped and after proud flesh comes off treat with Sugardine and let dry. Oh and he also said no Koppertox, it was not harming but not helping. I feel better. Horse is still moving around great, and seems oblivious to the hole in his foot. :D
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RE:Keratoma? 16 May 2011 01:32 #34

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Took your advice and went and saw the Vet. He said was proud flesh, and gave my some caustic stuff to burn it off. Keep it wrapped and after proud flesh comes off treat with Sugardine and let dry. Oh and he also said no Koppertox, it was not harming but not helping. I feel better. Horse is still moving around great, and seems oblivious to the hole in his foot. :D

Did he take x-rays to confirm or deny the keratoma and also to see if there is any damage or foreign objects in the puncture wound. 2 1/2 inches deep is going to damage something in any part of the foot. I find this pretty amazing that the horse wasn't seen by a vet immediately, your lucky the horse is still alive.
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RE:Keratoma? 16 May 2011 03:23 #35

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Did he take x-rays to confirm or deny the keratoma and also to see if there is any damage or foreign objects in the puncture wound. 2 1/2 inches deep is going to damage something in any part of the foot. I find this pretty amazing that the horse wasn't seen by a vet immediately, your lucky the horse is still alive.

I showed the Vet pictures of the injury and it's current state. I will get radiographs of both horses as soon as I have the money to haul them out there.
The stud is very sound and was mostly so even right after the insult. For two days he was limping slightly but still putting pressure on the foot. After that he was trotting up to me and has been since. I love my horses dearly and if he'd shown any signs of further damage I would have FOUND the money right then and there.

I initially felt the same as you that something had to have been damaged, but I couldn't get a Vet out to my house the evening it happened. The on call Vet was too far away. I treated and wrapped and prayed.
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Re: Keratoma? 17 Aug 2012 19:50 #36

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Update :

Finally got an xray of the hind foot in question.

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Horse is not lame or sensitive in that hoof. However, he is a pasture ornament for now. Was some slight drainage when explored by the Vet.
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Re: Keratoma? 22 Aug 2012 03:43 #37

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That looks like it needs a little more invasive surgery than an exploration. It is very typical in appearance to a keratoma.

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Re: Re: Keratoma? 22 Aug 2012 13:27 #38

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mwmyersdvm wrote:
That looks like it needs a little more invasive surgery than an exploration. It is very typical in appearance to a keratoma.

M. W. Myers, DVM

I was told if he is not lame, to leave it alone and just support it. He said even with surgery, there's a 60 percent chance it will come right back.
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