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TOPIC: Another mini with poor feet.

Another mini with poor feet. 18 Feb 2011 02:40 #1

Hi everyone.
I've only been a farrier for a year, and am relatively new to this, so opinions are greatly appreciated.

I am currently trimming a mini with terrible front feet. She doesn't walk well, and you can tell its painful for her.



We've been working on her for about 8 months now, and usually after her trimming, she is noticeably more comfortable when she walks, but it doesn't take long for her to have problems again.



Her coronet band is in really rough condition.



And her heels are quite contracted. (I forgot to clean her hoof out before I took this picture, I apologize.)



Her owners are well aware that euthanasia may be the best thing for her, but I thought I'd give it one last shot before letting her go.

Again, opinions and thoughts are much appreciated.
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RE:Another mini with poor feet. 18 Feb 2011 03:25 #2

Hi Trent,
You still have a lot of foot left to trim.The last pic,you can see,the heels bent over,those need to come off,then you can get at the dead sole that is likely still in there.Then you can see how much toe can come off.Have you been riding with someone?If so get them to take a look,if not you may need xrays to help you .Trim some off,then post some more pics on here,that wwill be cheaper!
John
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RE:Another mini with poor feet. 18 Feb 2011 04:43 #3

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Those dwarf mini's often have severe conformational defects that really deform their feet. Trying too hard to achieve hoof balance can cause them more discomfort. I do see alot of foot to come off in these pics. Take it slow with your nippers. Nip, knife, nip, knife, etc. On a mini like this, you need to look at providing the little feller something stable to stand on rather than developing a perfect hoof.
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RE:Another mini with poor feet. 18 Feb 2011 05:36 #4

Trent,
I see a lot of heel that needs to come off. Ands bad m/l imbalance.
if you look at the heel were the horn starts to curve you need to trim it off to at least were the horn at the heel is not bending. The good thing is that there is still a lot you can do for this little guy. If the owners are thinking about putting it down then its time to get aggressive. Try trimming more heel then you ever thought was safe to do before. What can it hurt :)
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RE:Another mini with poor feet. 18 Feb 2011 05:40 #5

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I agree with Michael. There are alot of these little mini's around with feet like this. You have alot of foot to work with. I don't see a reason to put him down.
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RE:Another mini with poor feet. 18 Feb 2011 13:11 #6

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bend your back ,sweat a bit and do a proper trim ,theres a shed of heel to come off for a start
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RE:Another mini with poor feet. 18 Feb 2011 13:26 #7

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Because of the short amount of time you have been a farrier, correctly trimming this kind of compromised hoof may be at least somewhat above your current level of knowledge, skill and expertise. Why not find a more experienced colleague to assist you? I agree with everyone who has offered you trimming advise. I too don't think that in and of themselves, these feet are indicative of an animal that should be euthanized.

If you tell us where you are located, someone here may be able to put you in touch with farriers who would be in a position to assist you.
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RE:Another mini with poor feet. 18 Feb 2011 14:57 #8

I forgot to mention its a good thing that you have asked for help. I have know several guys that have been shoeing for a year or less that know it all. Its nice to see someone that doesn't mind asking for help.
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RE:Another mini with poor feet. 18 Feb 2011 20:31 #9

Like others have said, the heels really need to be addressed. You would be suprised how much heel would come off. A lot.
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RE:Another mini with poor feet. 18 Feb 2011 23:35 #10

Thanks to everyone who has replied thus far.

These pictures were taken before her trim, and I forgot to take pictures of her when I was finished. I have been taking down her heels a lot, and that has been helping, but like I said, it is short term comfort.

I am in Saskatchewan, and I have had one farrier advise me on what to do, which I have been doing.

I am completely for trying harder to get her walking properly, the owners were prepared to put her down nearly a year ago. I am glad to see all of you think that she can get better, it has built up confidence to keep working on it and get her walking again.

I will try to get pictures of her finished trim next time I get out there, and post those for more information.
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RE:Another mini with poor feet. 19 Feb 2011 04:32 #11

Trent,
There are several threads here that show deformed feet trimmed back to balance and leveled,that will show in photos what we are describing.
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RE:Another mini with poor feet. 23 Feb 2011 21:07 #12

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clearthinkingone wrote:
I forgot to mention its a good thing that you have asked for help. I have know several guys that have been shoeing for a year or less that know it all. Its nice to see someone that doesn't mind asking for help.

Good o to what Micks said here

alot of folk must get frightened away from here
saying nought and posting the same
you need thick skin as some can be tuff on you at times
good on young mate for ponyen up yeah

this IS a great place to lern and there IS plenty of good folks to help
gotta love this site ay;)
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RE:Another mini with poor feet. 23 Feb 2011 22:21 #13

Don't let Red's kind words fool ya. He's a BUA troll eating OGRE! :D

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RE:Another mini with poor feet. 24 Feb 2011 13:21 #14

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This is a mini I got asked to do a couple of years ago. Very similar feet. It was rescued from gypsies, apparently had been like this all it's life, constantly lame. Not surprising considering the pedal bone fracture and abcess..

I was going to apply an orthotic cuff with IM to allow it to have a flat weight bearing surface, but didn't have the required shoes with me at the time. He walked away just as lame after the trim, but that's hardly surprising. Unfortunately I never got a chance to finish the job as he was kicked by another horse in the field and broke his neck :(

Here is a link to a public album, I can't upload them onto here as I'm working from an iPad.

What would some of you guys done differently if anything?

http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=126594&id=802929815&l=36650ca5a3
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