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Todays Adventure in the Sun! 10 Jun 2010 22:39 #1

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OK, first set of heart bars ever done alone. Al. gc size 7 set with no pressure on the frog. Actually about 1/8 to 3/16" gap. Shoe set back as the toes tend to run forward, squared a bit, and nailed with six nails. Took this horse over from a guy who retired and moved so this set up is his concoction with some tweaks by me. After nailing I filled the open area with sole pack but didn't push it under the frog bar. Hole was drilled in the bar, duct tape around the back of the hoof and vet tech CS squirted in through the hole filling the area under the frog plate, the area behind the hoof and across the back of the bar creating what the other guy called a bumper. Left the sole pac in per Jaye Perry info from his clinic after talking about CYA when you know one is sore. Horse has navicular diagnosis.

Right front was low in the heels and has a heel crack. Bar wedge added and heel floated with same sole pac and CS application.

Hinds get square toes and extended heels. Toes are for break over and keeping from pulling the fronts. I'd say the extended heels are for supporting the back of the foot when the toes run away and the negative plane look takes over. The pics make it look bad to me, the mods could be cleaner and crisper. But, the horse walked back to the stall with no limp and went through the wash/dip in the trail with no hesitation which the owner says is a problem. It's kind of ugly, but it seems to be working. I'll give it a couple of days and check to see if I crippled her or helped her.
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RE:Todays Adventure in the Sun! 10 Jun 2010 22:43 #2

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RE:Todays Adventure in the Sun! 11 Jun 2010 02:15 #3

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Ben, it looks like in the pic of the left front, that the shoe could have come back a little more too me. I am just going by the dish in the dorsal wall, and it looks like some kinda compression crack starting in the lat. toe pillar of that foot. Did you think it coulda come back more?

Sometimes all you can do is all you can do, I didn't see the horse when you started, but she looks to be in good hands now.
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RE:Todays Adventure in the Sun! 11 Jun 2010 02:20 #4

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Setting the toe back without good rads will sometimes place the tip of the heartbar too far back also. If I use a heartbar shoe I demand x-rays. If I use a Myron McClain frog pad or a Castle, then I feel I have some space to fudge.:)
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Chad, after getting home and looking at the pics I think that shoe can come back a bit more with more of that dish removed. I rasped it back as far as I thought I could, but the pics say different. The crack is not open, it looks like a scar starting at the hair line and growing down. The old shoer said if you don't keep the foot balanced it can and will open up. Good thing is there is a grinder roll in the toe back to the wear bar that will help a little.

I'm going to be back there in a few days and will check up on her. We'll see!;)
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RE:Todays Adventure in the Sun! 11 Jun 2010 02:31 #6

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Gary Hill wrote:
Setting the toe back without good rads will sometimes place the tip of the heartbar too far back also. If I use a heartbar shoe I demand x-rays. If I use a Myron McClain frog pad or a Castle, then I feel I have some space to fudge.:)


I'd pay good money for rads, but sometimes that ain't going to happen. The tip of the bar came out good at about 3/8" from the tip of the frog and I got the heels covered. That's probably why the shoe is farther forward than it looks like it could be cause I tried to get that right first. The bar has no direct pressure on the frog, it is filled underneath by about 3/16" of vet tech cs. Like I said, this is the other guys set up for this horse and has been working for about 6 months. The mare went back to the stall as good or better than she came out so I can breath for tonight. We'll see what time brings.
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Chad, after getting home and looking at the pics I think that shoe can come back a bit more with more of that dish removed. I rasped it back as far as I thought I could, but the pics say different. The crack is not open, it looks like a scar starting at the hair line and growing down. The old shoer said if you don't keep the foot balanced it can and will open up. Good thing is there is a grinder roll in the toe back to the wear bar that will help a little.

With the packing in the foot I couldn't really tell where the bar was sitting in relationship too the frog, but like Gary said may can't come back any more.

What about just rockering the toe back to inbetween the first and second nail hole?
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RE:Todays Adventure in the Sun! 11 Jun 2010 02:33 #8

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Ben, I was just kinda thinking out loud if ya know what I mean?:o Generic shoes are handy but can get ya in trouble IF you don't get the trim correct....that kinda fits every shoe we nail on don't it?:eek::D Nice job! I am always grinding or repunching or wideing alums. I really don't do well with them in the fire tho, admittly!
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chad rice wrote:

With the packing in the foot I couldn't really tell where the bar was sitting in relationship too the frog, but like Gary said may can't come back any more.

What about just rockering the toe back to inbetween the first and second nail hole?


Chad, the rocker might be a good idea. I really didn't want to melt those shoes in the forge. I don't work enough Al. to be real confident yet. But that is something to look at.
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Gary Hill wrote:
Ben, I was just kinda thinking out loud if ya know what I mean?:o Generic shoes are handy but can get ya in trouble IF you don't get the trim correct....that kinda fits every shoe we nail on don't it?:eek::D Nice job! I am always grinding or repunching or wideing alums. I really don't do well with them in the fire tho, admittly!


Yeah, I know exactly what you mean. I think I got the trim as good as it gets today and hope to see improvement ove the next couple of visits. Good thing about these GC heart bars is that the bar isn't to long, but the bad thing is it isn't to long. I got it set where I wanted it and had coverage of the heels also so I erred on the side of caution for the first set. I also ain't good in the fire with AL.
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