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TOPIC: Peroneus Tertius Injury

Peroneus Tertius Injury 18 Apr 2010 10:55 #1

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Good day,

Six year old 1100 lb, #00 hoof, TB with injury to the Peroneus Tertius, X ray confirmed. I have read Dr. James R. Rooney , The Lame Horse page 202 for info. This is the first injury as such that I have ever dealt with and besides Vet, recommended 2 month stall rest, I was wondering what other Farriers may have done to help a horse out with this injury. The horse after one month is improving and I was wondering what style of shoe has someone tryed that aided this type of injury.

Egg bar, Squared toe, trailer and or excerise program.......bottom line, I'm not payed to quess.

Suggestions and or success rate of recovery would be greatly appreciated.

thanks for your time,

David
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RE:Peroneus Tertius Injury 18 Apr 2010 15:20 #2

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With the ones I've had anything to do with its been "just pull the shoes till its better. " so I'm not an expert on shoeing protocals for this injury.

The rate of sucessful cure in my experience depends on how soon the owner stops being heartbroken over their babys boo boo and starts raising Hell over how soon the useless beast can get back into training/compitition

Good information here:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1140395/
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RE:Peroneus Tertius Injury 18 Apr 2010 16:52 #3

Although I have never dealt with this type of injury I would discuss a reverse wedge or a toe extension with the vet. A Denoix type of floated toe shoe comes to mind as well.


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RE:Peroneus Tertius Injury 18 Apr 2010 17:11 #4

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Funny how these things come up ,I had a case last week ....the horse is being boxed for 2 months ,with the vet being careful at the moment ,we only trimmed the front hooves ...but also the vet thought it should be no big deal after stricked rest...the damage was limited to fraying being seen ultrasound ....will see if I can talk to the vet this week..
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RE:Peroneus Tertius Injury 20 Apr 2010 01:17 #5

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HI, thanks for the replies and I will talk with the vet about suggestions and shoeing. As for now the horse has know shoes and seems to be growing stronger by the day, however owner feels that wants he is set free that he may reinjure himself...I believe he is getting bored.

About the owner of the horse, she is only interested in recovery rather then the $$$ sign, so I am very lucky and I know it.

Stall rest for now and I hope to get a few more replies from other farriers who have had experince with this.

David
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RE:Peroneus Tertius Injury 25 Apr 2010 12:01 #6

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Txfarrier wrote:
The rate of sucessful cure in my experience depends on how soon the owner stops being heartbroken over their babys boo boo and starts raising Hell over how soon the useless beast can get back into training/compitition


I about spit coffee all over my computer this morning when I read that. It caught me as funny but it is funny because it is a good description of what we have to deal with on a daily basis.
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RE:Peroneus Tertius Injury 25 Apr 2010 21:50 #7

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Sorry I'm late to the discussion.

I have not had to personally deal with this injury, but I thought you might find this article interesting.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1140395/
Rick Burten PF

In the immortal words of Ron White: "But let me tell you something, folks: You can't fix S-tupid. There's not a pill you can take; there's not a class you can go to. S-tupid is forever."
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RE:Peroneus Tertius Injury 27 Apr 2010 03:43 #8

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Thanks Rick, very informative, I will pass this on to the owner.

Meanwhile box stall rest for a couple of months, and the owner built a box stall outside for the horse to get sunshine and fresh air ( weather permitting) and the horse seems to love it.

Has anyone any ideas or suggestions for a rehab program, ie , walking excerise time limit, stretching etc.

For those who are surrounded and frustrated by horse owners who don't care about their lame horse may I suggest you view this owners web site


With permission...

Reaching Strides Equestrian Center....owner Nadine Bollig

Under rescues and rehab the horse is called Spartan

thanks for your help,

David
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RE:Peroneus Tertius Injury 28 Apr 2010 23:13 #9

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My horse ruptured his Peroneus Tertius on October 9, 2009. It was a complete rupture.

See attached photo.

I was told to lock him in a stall for 4 - 6 months and look at special shoeing. I kept him out in the pasture 24/7 with the herd and left him bare.

He is now perfect, sound and back in Epona's.
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RE:Peroneus Tertius Injury 29 Apr 2010 01:53 #10

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Looks like a good way to get a black eye KIMMY:eek:
Mark Anthony Amor
If we want anymore excrement like that outta you we'll squeese ya head :eek:
Mind how ya go now ;)
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RE:Peroneus Tertius Injury 29 Apr 2010 02:08 #11

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Eeeek I guess but the hind limb is not supposed to move in that manner AND that is the vet, not me :)

Poor Finn! I'll get photos/video of him moving when I get to Arizona. He has been there since April 10th and I'm not going to get there til May 7th or 8th.

Road trip starts on Monday. Wooohooo
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RE:Peroneus Tertius Injury 29 Apr 2010 10:54 #12

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Dogwood Forge wrote:
I about spit coffee all over my computer this morning when I read that. It caught me as funny but it is funny because it is a good description of what we have to deal with on a daily basis.

My attempt was humorous but I believe its one of the Great Truths of our profession. No matter how much they might love ol' Pookie they mostly want to ride the critter.
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RE:Peroneus Tertius Injury 30 Apr 2010 03:12 #13

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irishcas wrote:

Road trip starts on Monday. Wooohooo


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhdiSqt6sXE


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RE:Peroneus Tertius Injury 30 Apr 2010 04:33 #14

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Road trip starts on Monday. Wooohooo
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Don't know what part of Arizona (it's a big state), but I've got a series of endurance races, Wed thru Sunday out of Mt Carmel Utah, just north of Fredonia, Ariz.
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The older I get, the more horses I shoe, the fewer things that I can absolutely, positively fix.
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RE:Peroneus Tertius Injury 30 Apr 2010 05:18 #15

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Jack Evers wrote:
Don't know what part of Arizona (it's a big state), but I've got a series of endurance races, Wed thru Sunday out of Mt Carmel Utah, just north of Fredonia, Ariz.

Kimmy's coming to Tucson!:D:eek::rolleyes::cool:
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Folks who think traditional farriery means perimeter fit don't know a heluva lot about shoeing. Tom Stovall,...
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