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TOPIC: toe bleeding at white line ?????

toe bleeding at white line ????? 02 Mar 2010 18:07 #1

jumper 7 years old normal shoeing my first visit with her trim front and shoe normal go to rr and took 1/8" off the toe as it looked to need. white line bled at toe for 15 min less than a 1/4 cup haven't had this happen before seen it when farrier trim 2 short but even the client thought the length 3.5 was correct
touched the toe on lr barely with the knife and it seemed bruised and ready to do the same lightly leveled and placed the shoe. 7 days later i get the call foot hot. horse lame.
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RE:toe bleeding at white line ????? 02 Mar 2010 21:19 #2

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Maybe 3.5 inches isn't the universal length after all lol.:rolleyes:
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RE:toe bleeding at white line ????? 02 Mar 2010 21:29 #3

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Some horses carry long feet, if it happens(hopefully not) again soak a leather rim pad in Iodine and shoe the horse, make sure psi is relieved in the affected area. Just for a little insurance that hopefully no ill effects come about. I seen a guy do this once, worked good with no problems.


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Justin Decker

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RE:toe bleeding at white line ????? 03 Mar 2010 00:02 #4

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you took 1/8th an inch off and it bled for 15 minutes???? I seems to me if the hoof was in that delicate condition then it should of been obvious when you examined the hoof before getting started with your trim. Take some photos.
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RE:toe bleeding at white line ????? 03 Mar 2010 01:08 #5

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It takes 13 min. to clot off an artery. So with your 15 min. bleed out, you were doing surgery not trimming. But, it was a long way from it's heart; so you're good.
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RE:toe bleeding at white line ????? 03 Mar 2010 06:13 #6

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Trim em till they bleed and nail em to the hair!
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RE:toe bleeding at white line ????? 03 Mar 2010 06:42 #7

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brian robertson wrote:
It takes 13 min. to clot off an artery. So with your 15 min. bleed out, you were doing surgery not trimming. But, it was a long way from it's heart; so you're good.

Here we have always said,A Horse only bleeds 7 minutes......either it has stopped.Or the horse is empty...
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RE:toe bleeding at white line ????? 03 Mar 2010 08:54 #8

Have you pressed the sole with your thumbs to gauge the sole thickness?

Mick
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RE:toe bleeding at white line ????? 03 Mar 2010 12:40 #9

I really don't think that nature made every hoof exactly the same and using measurements to gauge length is not a good thing, they are guidelines only.

When trimming always use the thumb pressure test, then a stroke of the rasp and keep doing the thumb pressure test.
If the toe was still hard and you got a stray blood vessel then fair enough, but cauterising it immediately by using your hoof filings and a hot rasp could have saved you 15 minutes and a huge bloody mess.
Derek Poupard CJF, Dip WCF
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RE:toe bleeding at white line ????? 03 Mar 2010 15:56 #10

well thanks all. the 3.5 was the owners length suggestion from past shoes. and i did pressure sole and the toe. i must have taped some bacteria in the toe. had client soak hoof. he was hot 4 days and by last night foot cold horse back to normal. leather rimpad I will do that if this happens again. thanks for all the input

chris
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RE:toe bleeding at white line ????? 03 Mar 2010 17:21 #11

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Justin and Dan

when u guys soak the leather in Iodine how long does it need to set and/or can one just keep about 4 leather pads in something closed off in the rig for a long time...and just have on hand when its needed
Travis Reed.....


www.sporthorsefarrier.com to direct link..
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RE:toe bleeding at white line ????? 03 Mar 2010 19:21 #12

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Travis Reed wrote:
Justin and Dan

when u guys soak the leather in Iodine how long does it need to set and/or can one just keep about 4 leather pads in something closed off in the rig for a long time...and just have on hand when its needed

Just pour it on before you put it on and a little when you get it nailed up, works good for sore spots.
Justin Decker

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