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Buck knee, carpal varus, fetlock varus, toed in 12 Feb 2010 21:14 #1

This is Tipper. I have known him since April 2007. When the owner first called me He asked me if I could help him. I told him I might make him more comfortable, but probably not rideable. He looked pretty much like he does today, but overgrown and out of M/L balance. I put him in 3 degree alum egg bars with rockered toes, offset laterally on the bad foot. This seemed to help him, and after the next reset he was doing so well the owner tried him on a 2 hour trail ride. I guess he did ok, but was sore and swollen the next day. The owner decided to face facts and bought another horse. So Tipper is now a pasture peT/companion horse. The owner wants to keep him, and takes good care of his horses.

Tipper is a great horse. Last spring, due to a "White lightning accident" ( 14 hour soak), He lost both heels on the bad side. I rebuilt the heels with Superfast, packed them with copper sulfate and Keratex, and put on some handmade heartbars with full sole support of Equipak-CS. We reset them for 6 months, then he went back to barefoot. Tipper was super through all this. I know it was hard for him, but he couldn't have been a better patient. I if I could just install an new leg on him he would be awesome :).

I'm asking if any of you have any suggestions on the trim that might help him. The foot grows like a club foot, so I usually reduce the heels and toe flair. He flairs medially, and I take that also. If I put a 1/2 inch wedge under his toe, his heel comes off the ground.

I know the pictures aren't very good - new el-cheapo camera, and incompetant operator. On the solar shot, there was too much light for me to see the foot on the digital display, so I used the viewfinder and only got half the foot. Now I know. The other half does look pretty much the same.

I'm putting the pictures in the next post. I've already screwwed this up twice. Thanks in advance for any suggestions,

RegaRDS
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RE:Buck knee, carpal varus, fetlock varus, toed in 12 Feb 2010 21:41 #2

http://horseshoes.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=403&pictureid=3474

http://horseshoes.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=403&pictureid=3473

http://horseshoes.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=403&pictureid=3472

http://horseshoes.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=403&pictureid=3471
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RE:Buck knee, carpal varus, fetlock varus, toed in 12 Feb 2010 21:42 #3

http://horseshoes.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=403&pictureid=3470
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RE:Buck knee, carpal varus, fetlock varus, toed in 12 Feb 2010 22:15 #4

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How did you get Pictures of Our mare???Must have made a quick visit to Germany;)

No really she is about the same,my wife will kill me now....Never lame .

How does the back look ??
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RE:Buck knee, carpal varus, fetlock varus, toed in 12 Feb 2010 22:31 #5

Ray, not sure I know what you're asking. Back of hoof, heels same length. Back of leg, same deviation as front. Horses back, what would you expect to see? Tipper does have a lower shoulder on the near side. I suspect you're on to something I have overlooked. Please elaborate. Do you see something on your horse I should notice on Tipper? Remember I'm still a relative rookie compared to most people on here. Thanks in advanced!!

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RE:Buck knee, carpal varus, fetlock varus, toed in 12 Feb 2010 22:45 #6

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Ray, not sure I know what you're asking. Back of hoof, heels same length. Back of leg, same deviation as front. Horses back, what would you expect to see? Tipper does have a lower shoulder on the near side. I suspect you're on to something I have overlooked. Please elaborate. Do you see something on your horse I should notice on Tipper? Remember I'm still a relative rookie compared to most people on here. Thanks in advanced!!

Regards

Sorry ,I mean the horses back ,ours also has a lower shoulder and with the saddle she has (not hers really) it slips to the near side. The Knee is not that buckled on ours...But she get around without any problems ,but I do have to keep her in shoe all the time ,with a light lateral exstention for support..she tends to grind the lateral heel and push the bulbs of the heel up also ...
Regards i will make some pictures when she gets shod in a week of so..
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RE:Buck knee, carpal varus, fetlock varus, toed in 13 Feb 2010 16:45 #7

Ray_Knightley wrote:
How did you get Pictures of Our mare???Must have made a quick visit to Germany;)

That was your place?? What a coincidence!! There didn't seem to be anyone around, so I just went and took the pictures... Did you find the $500 I left in the barn?

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