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RE:New Heller legend rasps... 20 Sep 2007 23:21 #61

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Thanks Steve I will give her a call. See you at cornell.
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RE:New Heller legend rasps... 22 Sep 2007 10:03 #62

anvilsteve wrote:
Thank you Ray for standing up for Mustad in my abscence.

There have been some initial problems with transition to Columbia. We are working diligently to overcome them. My latest info. is that these problems have been overcome, I expect samples soon.

Let me be clear, our aim has always been to produce high quality products at a reasonable price. Historically, producing a high quality, consistant farrier rasp has been extremely difficult. I sometimes say "if we can put a man on the moon, why can't we do a really great rasp?" Apparently, all manufacturors can't always get it right, but we are trying.

Steve Kraus

Steve,

When the rasps begin to be produced with approprite quality will you share with this board lot #'s or other info so we can buy the good ones rather than the junky ones on the shelves of the distributors?
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RE:New Heller legend rasps... 22 Sep 2007 12:24 #63

George_Spear wrote:
Steve,

When the rasps begin to be produced with approprite quality will you share with this board lot #'s or other info so we can buy the good ones rather than the junky ones on the shelves of the distributors?


I don't know how the new Mustad rasps are for shoeing, yet; but the horseshoers have said that the "classic" bellota rasps in the blue box are sharper than the regular ones in the red box. Bellota comes for Victory racing plate company in Baltimore, MD.
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RE:New Heller legend rasps... 29 Sep 2007 21:45 #64

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I tried the new Heller rasps that I ordered. The course side is comparable to the old Heller rasps. However, the fine side is dull right out of the box. I would bet that the rasp I replaced had a sharper fine side. That's the only problem with them that I noticed. If Mustad can get the fine side sharper, I think it would be the same old rasp I've always used.

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RE:New Heller legend rasps... 29 Sep 2007 22:28 #65

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Sounds exactly like the old Mustad rasp. Maybe they should have just kept doing what they were doing in Austria instead of wrecking a perfectly good company.

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RE:New Heller legend rasps... 29 Sep 2007 23:00 #66

George Geist wrote:
Sounds exactly like the old Mustad rasp. Maybe they should have just kept doing what they were doing in Austria instead of wrecking a perfectly good company.

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RE:New Heller legend rasps... 03 Oct 2007 02:37 #67

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Sorry George, but you have your "facts" wrong. Simonds was in the process of wrecking their own company due to lack of profitability. That division was to be sold or shut down before Mustad entered the picture. As much as I am with you on the buy American theme, the jobs that are making many of the products that we horseshoers use, will mostly go overseas, like many other everyday products. Working in noisy, dirty, dangerous manufacturing jobs are all going that way. Only us guys and construction workers, etc.will continue to work at noisey, dirty, dangerous, jobs because we can't be replaced by machines. We have always wanted a premium rasp for our product line and have spent a lot of effort and money trying to do so. It is still our goal.

Steve Kraus, CJF
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RE:New Heller legend rasps... 03 Oct 2007 06:39 #68

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Well I dreged out a box of old blackmasters tother day and buffed them up on a meslin wheele with a dab of orian pollishing ingot and they as cockerhoo as ever Its about the third time ive dug these out of retirment
got a few save edges as well and some of our Johnies wood millers going well as well
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RE:New Heller legend rasps... 03 Oct 2007 09:53 #69

Steve,

I'm really liking the wood miller rasp with teeth like the legend. You might want to try some of those. What kind are you using?
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RE:New Heller legend rasps... 03 Oct 2007 23:36 #70

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Hey George-

My last post was to the other George, but I have always liked the Simonds Red Tang Farrier Rasp. That is why I recommended that Mustad acquire Simonds. The White Tang Heller Legend was originally designed for hooves in wet environments. Since the aquisition of Simonds I have been only using test samples of the line, so I have not had the chance to buy any Wood-Miller rasps, but I would like to try them for comparison. I tried their rasps a couple of years ago and did not find them to very good, but I understand their latest ones could be better.

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RE:New Heller legend rasps... 03 Oct 2007 23:57 #71

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Steve,

I've used the Heller's since they first became available. Now, with the move to SA and the quality issues that are reported, I am leary of purchasing any more. How are those who are now "gun-shy" going to know when/if the quality of the rasp has returned to its former high standard.

Thanks.

Rick
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RE:New Heller legend rasps... 18 Jan 2008 13:45 #72

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Denise,

I'd call the Wood-Miller folks and tell them about the fine side dullness and see how they respond.

I too have been using the Ultra Sharp and am quite satisfied with it. In fact, I've got to order some more. Note to self: order more rasps. :D
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RE:New Heller legend rasps... 20 Jan 2008 03:41 #73

TO John of wood miller,

I just bought a box of your rasps (6). sorry but was really disappointed with them. it was duller than the used heller I took out. I go through a heller in 2 to 3 days, the wood miller was through after 4 horses!! maybe I got a bad batch?? no vested interests here, just unsatisfied with all the rasps out there right now
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RE:New Heller legend rasps... 20 Jan 2008 22:10 #74

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I just got a shipment of Red Tangs. Couldn't find anything on either the boxes or the rasps about where they were made - judging by the logo not being as sharp as I'm used to, I'd guess S.A.. The rasps themselves are fine (I'm still on my first), the logo would be my only clue to a new location and the logo doesn't mean much to me.
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RE:New Heller legend rasps... 21 Jan 2008 00:12 #75

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I've used Heller leged rasps since I started and recently the quality of them has really declined and now I understand why. I mean one rasp used to last like 2 weeks, they were really killer. But not anymore:(. I've just switched to SaveEdge which are nice after trying Bellota's which were like using butter knives when your used to steak knives, I gave them away to different customers incase they ever needed them, Lord knows they'd never hurt anything with one of those pieces of ****.
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