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RE:New Heller legend rasps... 26 Jul 2007 02:03 #16

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John Zarzecny wrote:

Mr. Steele

As the proprietor of a farrier supply house, you should not be commenting (good or bad) on my or anyone else's product.

As I stated in my prior post, you have "vested interests", which could compromise your integrity and objectivity.

Perception is reality.

Best Regards

JZ

Since you think it's ok for you to make/deliberate the rules on posting...

Is it ok with you for me to post as ray steele, the farrier who bends over everyday?

If so, I ask the same questions that I asked previously, only as a farrier to get an answer from JZ /Wood Miller!

Just didn't realize I lost/gained any rights being a farrier or a farrier supplier....
there might be a market for a rule book here,

Not the highest regards

Ray Steele

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RE:New Heller legend rasps... 26 Jul 2007 02:15 #17

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Just to jump in with a few comments on my experience with wood miller. The samples I was sent were excelent. The box's I purchased however 2 or 3 out of each box seemed to be pretty damn good. The rest felt like they had been used hard for a week or two. They just felt worn out and dull. That leaves a bad taste in your mouth when its the last rasp in the truck and youve got 6 horses to do and the thing just wont cut it. Literally. I've requested a sample of the new one however which I never received.

IMO wood miller has the potential to create a great rasp. They just need to do something about the quality control.

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RE:New Heller legend rasps... 26 Jul 2007 02:32 #18

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John Zarzecny wrote:

Mr. Steele

As the proprietor of a farrier supply house, you should not be commenting (good or bad) on my or anyone else's product.

As I stated in my prior post, you have "vested interests", which could compromise your integrity and objectivity.

Perception is reality.

Best Regards

John it would be best to take a look at your qaulity control. Some buisnesses pay good money for honest feedback. You just got it for nothing. No what I mean?

Raye is pretty honest and I do believe he is talking to you as a farrier not a supplier.

Take care.

Phil Armitage, CF
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"Anyone who proposes to do good must not expect people to roll stones out of his way, but must accept his lot calmly if they even roll a few more upon it." Albert Schweitzer

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RE:New Heller legend rasps... 26 Jul 2007 03:25 #19

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I just recieved 6 rasps I ordered from Wood-Miller. I used the two differant ones John sent me and was very pleased with their performance. I can only hope that the new ones will do as well? I did well over 60 head with one of the rasps BUT it was during the wet part of our spring and it is just now getting dry and feet all over are drying out finally and I will see how these rasps work with dry feet? If they hold up I will use them from now on? If not they will be sent back, so fair is fair?

"As I see it, winners get the money - while losers talk of "individual goals" and similar stuff." Tom Stovall

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RE:New Heller legend rasps... 26 Jul 2007 08:30 #20

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Phil Armitage wrote:

John it would be best to take a look at your qaulity control. Some buisnesses pay good money for honest feedback. You just got it for nothing. No what I mean?

Raye is pretty honest and I do believe he is talking to you as a farrier not a supplier.

Take care.

Hey Phil, sometimes I dunno what is worse: bein attacked or being defended by you...

I would sure not want to be called PRETTY HONEST. Than rather the Hungry Hungarian Horsethief Downunder.....

Balazs

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RE:New Heller legend rasps... 26 Jul 2007 12:49 #21

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John Zarzecny wrote:

G'Day Phil

I have no problem with feed-back from "Ray the Farrier".

However, it was not until after I joined this forum and started to offer a "farrier direct" service, that Mr. Steele contacted me and tore a strip off my hide.

So, is this a "Ray the Farrier" issue or "Ray the Supplier" issue.

Anyways, I will refrain from anymore posts, as I do not wish to occur the wrath of "Sir Baron".

God Bless, everyone on this forum.

Good-Bye

JZ,

It appears to me that you are and have been clouding the issue.

Me being a farrier or a farrier supplier is not the issue, as can be seen from at least one other post on this thread, someone else has found your product inconsistant,

That inconsistancy is expensive, the sleve of 6 rasps at $14.50 usd costs $87.00, if as noted 2 or 3 are good ,and 2 or 3 are not so good, then a farrier buying your product is paying $87.00 for 2 or 3 . That figures out to $29.00 or $43.50 per rasp depending on the luck of the draw.

Don't let the other rasp manufacturers in on your little secret, your doing well.

Based on the 2 or 3 good rasps per sleve report, you have improved, if you remember I told you a few years ago about 1 out of 6.

Even less regards

Ray Steele

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RE:New Heller legend rasps... 27 Jul 2007 00:52 #22

ray steele OFFLINE Master Posts: 1042 Thank you received: 4 Karma: 1	balazsborbely wrote: Hey Phil, sometimes I dunno what is worse: bein attacked or being defended by you... I would sure not want to be called PRETTY HONEST. Than rather the Hungry Hungarian Horsethief Downunder..... Balazs Balazs, you trying to say I ain't pretty? Regards Ray Steele
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RE:New Heller legend rasps... 27 Jul 2007 02:27 #23

Phil Armitage OFFLINE Guru Posts: 9254 Karma: 0	ray steele wrote: Balazs, you trying to say I ain't pretty? Regards Ray Steele Okay, very honest. Can honesty be graded? Lets just say honest.
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RE:New Heller legend rasps... 27 Jul 2007 02:30 #24

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balazsborbely wrote:

Hey Phil, sometimes I dunno what is worse: bein attacked or being defended by you...

I would sure not want to be called PRETTY HONEST. Than rather the Hungry Hungarian Horsethief Downunder.....

Balazs

I feel pretty,
Oh, so pretty,
I feel pretty and witty and bright!
And I pity
Any girl who isn't me tonight.

I feel charming,
Oh, so charming
It's alarming how charming I feel!
And so pretty
That I hardly can believe I'm real.

See the pretty girl in that mirror there:
Who can that attractive girl be?
Such a pretty face,
Such a pretty dress,
Such a pretty smile,
Such a pretty me!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=loWrI1FneSM

Phil Armitage, CF
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RE:New Heller legend rasps... 27 Jul 2007 07:12 #25

smitty88 OFFLINE Guru Posts: 6951 Thank you received: 64 Karma: 13	Phil i think you need help
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RE:New Heller legend rasps... 27 Jul 2007 12:39 #26

Gary Hill OFFLINE Guru Posts: 5298 Thank you received: 6 Karma: 4	I sure hope you don't come to Texas singing that stuff!
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RE:New Heller legend rasps... 27 Jul 2007 17:41 #27

tbloomer OFFLINE Master Posts: 4622 Thank you received: 20 Karma: 1	Phil Armitage wrote: I feel pretty, Oh, so pretty, I feel pretty and witty and bright! Goosefrabba! Goosefrabba! Goosefrabba! Goosefrabba! Ahhhhh . . . I feel so much better. No more anger.
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RE:New Heller legend rasps... 27 Jul 2007 17:48 #28

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John Zarzecny wrote:

I will simply outline my past business relationship with Mr. Steele and let the members of these forums decide what hat he is truly wearing, "Ray the Proprietor" or "Ray the Farrier".

If you feel this inappropriate, I fully understand, as I find this entire saga distasteful an un-professional.

Best Regards

While I don't find it distasteful or unprofessional, it aint exactly smart to bring a knife to a gun fight. Don't say I didn't warn ya not to mess with the redhead. :cool:

Gary, get the popcorn ready.

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Here's the deal. I'm trying to keep it simple.

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RE:New Heller legend rasps... 27 Jul 2007 19:42 #29

Phil Armitage OFFLINE Guru Posts: 9254 Karma: 0	Gary Hill wrote: I sure hope you don't come to Texas singing that stuff! Will it help if I have a fiddle?
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RE:New Heller legend rasps... 27 Jul 2007 21:11 #30

Gary Hill OFFLINE Guru Posts: 5298 Thank you received: 6 Karma: 4	If you can play the fiddle you can wear a dress if ya want , just play it right!
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