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New Heller legend rasps... 23 Jul 2007 19:03 #1

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Has anyone tried the new ones that are now being made in Columbia? I have and they are poor quality compared to the ones that were being made before. The smooth side clogs up and they wear out in a couple of days. I'm just wondering in case I had a bad batch and whether to get anymore.

The original ones made in the US were awesome and I hope it is just a bad batch.

Let me know what you all think?

Marc
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RE:New Heller legend rasps... 23 Jul 2007 21:08 #2

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Marc,

I have no idea if I have gotten one. The new batch I got a few weeks ago seem to be holding up just fine.

Are there any new markings indicating that they are made in Columbia? The only markings I see are the white tang, and the Heller Legend logo on the rasp nothing else.

Hope you just got a bad batch. If not good luck on your endeavoprs of finding a replacement rasp.

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RE:New Heller legend rasps... 23 Jul 2007 22:43 #3

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Marc and or Donald

Does the box or the rasp indicate USA or Columbia? That will tell you new or old stock.

I'm told, but I have not rcd any, that the new rasps are different and not for the best. I still have old stock.

Regards

Ray Steele
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RE:New Heller legend rasps... 24 Jul 2007 00:53 #4

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I was told by a supplier that the quality would go down when they moved to Columbia so I switched to Save Edge and really like them. I wish I could say my poor finger could say the same.
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RE:New Heller legend rasps... 24 Jul 2007 00:55 #5

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Marc,
I expect to receive the lastest samples of the Heller Legend from Columbia any day for my inspection. The production from there should be as good or better then the US production, which is the goal. Check the box to make sure it says where the rasps were made. The rasps made before the change over may have not been up to standards due to the imenent closing of the Simonds factory.

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RE:New Heller legend rasps... 24 Jul 2007 01:10 #6

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anvilsteve wrote:
Marc,
I expect to receive the lastest samples of the Heller Legend from Columbia any day for my inspection. The production from there should be as good or better then the US production, which is the goal. Check the box to make sure it says where the rasps were made. The rasps made before the change over may have not been up to standards due to the imenent closing of the Simonds factory.

Steve Kraus, CJF (farrier technical consultant for Mustad)

Steve,

What is your definition of the "change over".
Also, you originally(in the thread , Mustads Latest Acquisation) brought up the use of the banned chemical in the production of rasps, later if I remember correctly , you said it was something you heard about from a Nicholson worker. Still later left me feeling that you would clear up any missunderstandings after speaking to the powers ,

I would still like to know if the US banned chemical is now being used?

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Ray Steele
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RE:New Heller legend rasps... 24 Jul 2007 01:59 #7

Dont knock the quality of the columbian product or..............
the columbian rasp cartel will come and teach you a lesson.

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RE:New Heller legend rasps... 24 Jul 2007 03:17 #8

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Having a hard time finding anyone with 17" rasps left. I am having a box of Simmons sent to me, but the supplier saisd he only has 3 boxes left so if I like them to call him back and have him put my name on them.
I have been using and like the Save Edge large rasps but I was told production has been stopped because of a huge backlog on the regular rasps.

Hard to go back to the regular sixe after using the longer one's for so long.
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RE:New Heller legend rasps... 24 Jul 2007 03:37 #9

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Marc Jerram Dip.WCF wrote:
Has anyone tried the new ones that are now being made in Columbia? I have and they are poor quality compared to the ones that were being made before. The smooth side clogs up and they wear out in a couple of days. I'm just wondering in case I had a bad batch and whether to get anymore.

The original ones made in the US were awesome and I hope it is just a bad batch.

Let me know what you all think?

Marc
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RE:New Heller legend rasps... 24 Jul 2007 06:21 #10

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The box stated they were made in Columbia, I think they were made in Ohio before if I'm correct?

Think I'll wait and see if anyone else thinks of them, in case i did get a dodgy batch.

Thanks for your help
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RE:New Heller legend rasps... 25 Jul 2007 02:34 #11

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Checked out my boxes and they are all made here in the states.

I am still riding the fence on this. Not 100% if I need to start shopping around.

I am sure we will hear more about it.

Don
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RE:New Heller legend rasps... 25 Jul 2007 20:47 #12

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You may want to give the Wood-Miller rasp a try. I got one of their production run rasps and it is working really well.
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RE:New Heller legend rasps... 25 Jul 2007 22:20 #13

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Rick,

I wouldn't go the Wood Miller route, get a couple of decent ones buy a case then find out that they are not like what you originally tried . I've still got 60 or better pieces that I wouldn't dump them on the market nor trade back at a loss(shipping). You might ask what do I do with them, when someone wants a cheap piece of **** , I sell them a Wood Miller, and honestly tell them that they are buying a piece of what I consider "****". They usually come back and buy a real rasp, or let it rust in piece.

Anyone else buy any of these in quantity?


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Ray Steele
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RE:New Heller legend rasps... 25 Jul 2007 23:31 #14

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I think Andrew Grimm bought several. You still got any of them Andrew?
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RE:New Heller legend rasps... 26 Jul 2007 01:12 #15

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John Zarzecny wrote:
G'Day Mr. Steele

"Make yourself an honest man and then you may be sure there is one less rascal in the world".

JZ,

You have never purchased a single Ultra Sharp rasp!!











Obviously, you have "vested interests" in promoting or disparaging via horseshoes.com

Best Regards



JZ,

Clever use of words.

Have I or Horseshoes Unlimited ever purchased rasps from Wood Miller?

Did I purchase Horse rasps from Wood Miller?

Did I let you know that I and my customers were not satisfied with the product that was delivered?

Did Rick Burten mention "whatever Sharp" your promoting lately?

Did Rick Burten mention Wood Miller?

Did I respond to Wood Miller?

I don't keep track of the " whatever Sharp" your promoting. I just commented on Rick Burten's post and my experience with your ultimately expensive Wood Miller product.

You I noticed were very careful to declare "ULTRA SHARP".

Does Wood Miller promote/represent "Ultra Sharp"?

Regards


Ray Steele
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