Bill Adams wrote:

In 23 years I've come up with the results for drinking all alcoholic beverages.

1) I'll never drink and drive (totalled 1 car, run into 5-6 cars/trees at a low speed, many dents, etc.)

2) It doesn't matter weather it's Ale, Lager, liquer, beer, whiskey, Scotch, etc. If I drink enough of it I'll always get a hangover.

3) Food taste much better after drinking

4) Drinking makes me want to fight

5) Drinking makes me look and act ******

6) Drinking and riding horses is a blast

7) After drinking I think I can dance

Never shoe or trim horses during or after drinking

9) drinking can ruin a marriage and/or good relationship, but can make for a great 1 night stand.


The list goes on and on and on.

Needless to say I've been sober for 2 months now so enjoy my friends.

Enjoying drink and being drunk are two different things. Good job outa you controling your life.
Keep it up.
Bill

which do you think makes the clip better/easier? the cross pein or the "clipping" hammer.

I think it is personal preference, I've used both and at first I thought crosspein, then I used a Justin cone shaped hammer. I could pull functional clips with the crosspein, but better clips with the cone. I've started pulling them inside my hardie hole, it works great for me. Anyway, practice, practice....

B&B Shoeing wrote: The farrier on the end opposite the head of the hammer.

Rick

B&B Shoeing wrote:
There both just as easy, or hard depending on how you want to look at it.

More importantly is the person using the hammer and the handle. IMO, a big thick, beefy handle makes it harder to pull a clip.

Andrew Grimm wrote: The thinner the better. I have heard a good thin, long handle called a "licorice whip". Don't forget that the way you hold your tonge counts for a lot.
Bill

Brian Purrington wrote:
I could make a very nice shoe and screw it up with a c.r.a.p.p.y clip. I started using my hardy hole about a couple months ago. Holy Cow! What a difference in making my clips. I had to put shoes on a horse the other day for a retired farrier. I felt like he was judging my work as I went. When I got to the clips - no problem. Pulled them like a champ.

Mikel

I find if you have to clip different section it can be harder
if your not useing the bob,cross,and ball

like clipping 5/8 x 1/4 concave then you might have to
clip a 1 x 1/2 plain shoe

i try use the three ways at some stage of the week
or i find i get rusty

then the row starts with me and myself


i think a well drawn clip and fitted well is a nice sight

think of how your job could look with a clip off centre
in front or pulled to one side

or if one is small and one big
i also find the good clips you pull are much easrier to fit

what you think?

Smitty88,
I agree with you a well drawn clip looks great - centered, well sized. Really stands out. Where I came from I never used clips unless we had a crack in the hoof or something like that. When I came over here - well there are clips on everything. I have done a lot of work trying to get my clips to look good. A file also helps clean'em up too.

Mikel

Mike i never file clips we would have got a clip around the ear
if we took a file to our every day shoe-making or just cliping shoes

properly forged there is no need

Some people buy new toys, I make 'em...

With all the discussion about pulling clips and the different methods, I wanted to try a clip starter. Came up with this and it seems to work well. Good souce hole and the clips are consistant in size and shape. I can see the advantage in this if you want a "pretty" clip. I still havent developed the hammer control needed to do it the "old fashioned way".

http://s157.photobucket.com/albums/t59/wellshodhorses/clips%20and%20starter/?

Brian looks like it set the bubble well for you.
I look like you have lost some material in the toe qauarters when you drew out your clip.
It looks like you buble went outwards when you drew it out.
Are you creating the bubble and then drawing the clip in one heat?

Donald

I held the hind shoe at too much of an angle when I drew out the bubble. I think that is what you are seeing. The quarter has a straight look to it because of the way I held the shoe. (I kinda mashed the foot surface a little) Next time I'll hold it more upright. I got some of the bubble drawn out in one heat, but I did have to take a second on all these. These were the first ones out and my anvil was still cold. Normally on a warm anvil I can get 'em in one heat. Thanks for the observations.

My new toy to go with the hammers and tongs I bought to accesserise(sp) it.



And my sons new toy, my old one.