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TOPIC: Truck Vs Trailer revisted

Truck Vs Trailer revisted 08 Sep 2006 11:18 #1

Hey Folks, after reading through the last Truck Vs Trailer thread, I still have some questions.

I was considering having Stonewell build a trailer similar to their truck bodies, full swing up doors, no steps. I was thinking of a 8 foot tag along. Should I go with a gooseeck because of the weight?

Anyone successfully make the switch from a truck to a trailer? I now live in the south so no need to worry about snow, and lots of room to pull into barns.


Dianne
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RE:Truck Vs Trailer revisted 08 Sep 2006 11:38 #2

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If ya want to wag a trailer behind you then go with the gooseneck and tandum axles.
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RE:Truck Vs Trailer revisted 08 Sep 2006 13:09 #3

I have an enclosed trailer and I love it, as Gary pointed out the only thing that I would change (and I actually have thought about it several times) is that I wish it were a goose neck. You are able to get into many tighter spots much easier, get turned around in the little patch of dirt in front of the barn because their is no where else. The truck will ride alot better is another great advantage of the gooseneck vs the bumper pull. Have ever pulled a bumper pull horse trailer or a gooseneck slant load, you can feel a huge difference in the two. If you haven't I'm sure you have clients w/ one or the other or both that would let you try out. Yea, tandum is the only way to go. I can't even budge the tounge on my trailer. I have to be perfect to hook it up because of all the weight. Good Luck!
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RE:Truck Vs Trailer revisted 08 Sep 2006 14:32 #4

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Gooseneck trailers are 1000 times more manuverable. That reason alone should be enough to go after one. I have a tag along that Im makeing rightnow, and Im pretty confident I'm not goign to like it. The deal is that I have a small truck and right now dont want to deal with the investment of both a new truck and trailer. So I'm gogin to tough it out. The only downside is goosenecks are typically heavier, especialy if you go with a converted horse trailer. Cargo trailers (can be goosenecks) and stonewell types seem to be the lightest, even compared to an Aluminum horse trailer.
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RE:Truck Vs Trailer revisted 08 Sep 2006 15:45 #5

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I had a trailer for a few months and I did not like it! Mostly for two reasons: first we have TONS of dirt roads around here and everything bounced around too much, and second there are a lot of driveways that I thought I could get into but they turned out to be a pain to get out of! I did like the fact that the trailer could be unhitched and the truck could be used for other things! I went with the full Stonewell box and the only regret I have is that I didn't do it sooner. Oh, Dianne, I took your advice and I didn't have it painted.....the only problem being that all the metal dust rusts and sticks to every surface!

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RE:Truck Vs Trailer revisted 09 Sep 2006 04:29 #6

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NHFarrier wrote:
the only problem being that all the metal dust rusts and sticks to every surface!

Sorry to hijack the thread, but Amy you might consider clear coating. The benifits are that you seal the shine into the aluminum and when you 'chip' or scratch the clear coat, its not hardly noticable. Oh and those shoe racks are gogin to work wonderful in my trailer. Though I will need to cut up the bar shoe rack to work. =]

Dianne,
One thing I was seriously considering was makeing myself a stonewell type body that could be mounted to a flat bed on the truck, or mounted to a flatbed trailer , and easilly swapable. Im sure this is something brent could do. That way you would facilitate all your needs.

Im not sure about how much time your spending up here these days, but I was thinking about doing an enclosed trailer for the winter. I need to get a real truck first. =]
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RE:Truck Vs Trailer revisted 10 Sep 2006 12:20 #7

Ive worked out of trailers most of the time. Gooseneck and bumber pull, ive found that haveing a gooseneck is nice, yea its more manuverable but a tight spot is a tight spot no matter what your driving. Gooseneck biggest pro to me was the extra 8 feet of storage in the peak (I only had enclosed trailers).

A bumber pull set up right with sway control and weight distrabution bars will go down the road just as nice as a gooseneck. The biggest pro to me was any truck could haul it (I could rent a truck and go down the road not everybody has a gooseneck hitch.)

I do alot of horsehows so I could leave the trailer set up and have the truck free. That I belive is the biggest pro to any trailer, haveinv the option to free up your truck.

The main con for me was it another maintance bill, its more tire money, more brake money, more insurance money, more tax money. MO MONEY, MO MONEY, MO MONEY...

I have a body now that can be liftted off and have a flat bed I seem to like it so far. Its easier going down the road, its easier at hotels, its easier at the bank, it seems to be working so far.
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RE:Truck Vs Trailer revisted 10 Sep 2006 12:27 #8

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I have Purdybilt body on my '03 F150. Neal Purdy used to work for Stone well - so his design is almost identical. The max GVWR on the truck is 6000lbs. This rig as shown here is 5720lbs with me in it. I added helper springs in the rear. It is the basic no-frills F150 with the V6 and 5-speed stick. Gets 17mpg highway. I carry about 150pairs of shoes. If you are going to carry more shoes than that, you're going to need a truck with a more substantial suspension. The same body on a 3/4 ton truck sits about 6" higher - making it much harder to reach into and get stuff off the shelves. My floor is at waist level and I can reach the center from all sides. The same body on a bigger truck would be less convenient and require a lot of slide out drawers and shelves in order to reach stuff - which adds to the cost and the weight.

You can have the same shoeing body built as a trailer - Stone well, Purdybilt, and Georgia Farrier supply all have this feature.

My long term plans are to build a gooseneck trailer walk-in shop and also keep the F150 as a backup rig.
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RE:Truck Vs Trailer revisted 10 Sep 2006 12:47 #9

NHFarrier wrote:
Oh, Dianne, I took your advice and I didn't have it painted.....the only problem being that all the metal dust rusts and sticks to every surface!

Amy

Amy,

I find Scotchbrite pads or even SOS/Brillo pads works wonders for cleaning the surfaces of your rig. I have an aluminum satin finished bumper, and scrubbing with a wet brillo pad buffs out to a nice shine.
Be careful, but you can use a touch of acetone to remove any acc-umulated oils, equipack ect. from the floors of your rig. It is best to wipe the acetone dry and not let it spill on any painted or plastic surface. (I once had a helper spill acetone all over a taillight lense, watched it melt almost immediately).

Tom,

I am very partial to Stonewell bodies, as I have known Brent for many years, back before he became famous and started Stonewell and was still a humble farrier like us.


I am still on the fence when it come to trailer vs truck, as I suddenly realized I do have one barn here that would pose an exciting challenge to get a trailer in and out of.

Keep the replys coming, I have until October 1st to make my decision.

THANKS!
Dianne
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RE:Truck Vs Trailer revisted 10 Sep 2006 13:55 #10

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If you go with a trailer I would seriously suggest registering it with a Maine plate. It will save you a bunch of $$. You do not need to live in Maine to get a Maine trailer plate. Your truck insurance should cover the trailer. As far I know the only state that requires trailer insurance is MA, but they are nazi about everything. Your truck insurance should cover the trailer reguardless. If you register in Maine the costs are much less, 90 bucks for 5 years. There are many firms that will do this for you. I will never register another trailer in MA (or truck if I can help it).

Here is one place I found http://www.mbi-trailers.com/register/


P.S.: Tim, I dropped your plate in the mail saturday morn. Thanks man.
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RE:Truck Vs Trailer revisted 11 Sep 2006 00:52 #11

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I just ran by the stonewell site and had to share these images of some new trailers they finished. They are nice.





More pics of this trailer http://stonewellbodies.com/fabius4star.html
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RE:Truck Vs Trailer revisted 11 Sep 2006 00:58 #12

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Check out the rolling anvil stand tucked away. Great Idea.




This one was my favorite

A bunch more pics of this trailer: http://stonewellbodies.com/omaha.html

And pictures of many of other recent Stonewell deliveries here..
http://stonewellbodies.com/2006delarch.html


These make me want an enclosed trailer badly. These folks do GREAT work. I spoke with brent on the phone and he was very nice, even gave me a few pointers on building my own rig.
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RE:Truck Vs Trailer revisted 11 Sep 2006 11:39 #13

Josh,


Yes that is a really nice trailer, however I would have one serious issue with it; I now live in the south. I can only imagine how hot it would get inside an enclosed trailer with the forge going on a day with a heat index of 112o.

I found looking at Stonewell's web site the Gooseneck trailers that are built like the Stonewell truck bodies are very appealing. I need to contact their owners to see how they like pulling them and what their turning radius seems to be. I am still concerned about that one barn (and it's a big boarding stable with $900 a month board, which down here is unheard of, if you-know-what-I-mean!) that's going to be a tight fit.

Oh, and as far as registering it, South Carolina requires no trailer tags in-state, but when you do tag a trailer, it is a permanent one time fee. I would make sure that I have additional insurance coverage (So called Riders) to cover the trailer and what ever contents it has above my trucks policy.

Dianne
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RE:Truck Vs Trailer revisted 11 Sep 2006 12:55 #14

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Dianne Lemmon wrote:
Josh,


Yes that is a really nice trailer, however I would have one serious issue with it; I now live in the south. I can only imagine how hot it would get inside an enclosed trailer with the forge going on a day with a heat index of 112o.

Dianne

You can solve that problem by installing a big fan in the trailer and mounting the forge on a swing arm so that it is outside of the enclosed trailer whilst you are working.
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RE:Truck Vs Trailer revisted 11 Sep 2006 14:47 #15

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Dianne,
You can get a swing out for your forge, so it swings out clear of the inside of the trailer. The changes I would make to a walk in trailer would be to a: install some fans. b: Make the back door come straight up, no ramp. c: Put the anvil either on a swing out or mount it right at the very back so I dont have to get into the trailer every time to hit the shoe.

I can have a buddy of mine call you if you want, you might know him; John Simpson. He has a Stonewell Goosneck farrier body like you described. He likes it a lot.
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