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RE:Handmade 23 Aug 2006 02:55 #16

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Don't forget the riders maybe a little overweight and slightly intoxicated. And believe it or not some of them ride horses that aren't as fit as they might think, especially after a long chase through rough or sloppy terrian.

I like the concave on the few I do, you can still use the studs too. Just punch the stud holes instead of drilling.

If you look at some of the shoeing pics Maki has posted you will see a nice "hunter" fit.
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RE:Handmade 23 Aug 2006 02:59 #17

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Andrew Grimm wrote:
Ronald,
Thanks for the info. it's very interesting to learn about foxhunting. It's even more interesting to talk to a farrier who foxhunts himself.
As far as the owner goes, I don't care. I did what I felt was right and that's what really matters. These horses feet sucked big time. Thanks for the support. It's appreciated.

Andrew Grimm

They do a lot of fox hunting here in Denmark. Many of my customers use screw-in studs. Many of the horses I do are also in lot of the jumping shows here. I also set pretty tight, but leave just enough for expansion, except one horse I have had trouble holding shoes - he is very tight. The owner knows it and we reset every 5 weeks or so. When I first started on this horse his feet were so bad I hated to hear the phone ring. I started hotshoeing him. Now I can't remember the last time he lost a shoe. His feet have come back so good. I really believe hotshoeing has helped. Also the owner takes he out to the beach and gets the feet in the salt water at least 3 times a week. I think this helps a bit also.

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RE:Handmade 23 Aug 2006 03:00 #18

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J.H. shoeing wrote:
.............concave on the few I do, you can still use the studs too. Just punch the stud holes instead of drilling.
Why?
I use a recess punch and drill the holes, it's more effiecient and a lot less hammering.
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RE:Handmade 23 Aug 2006 03:16 #19

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Jaye Perry wrote:
Why?
I use a recess punch and drill the holes, it's more effiecient and a lot less hammering.

I havent tapped any concave, let alone drill for studs. Im a bit worried that the stud or caulk will tilt into the crease. But a freind showed me some shoes he pulled off a Fox Hunter from england and the holes were punched in the rim. The punch had dragged the rim into the crease, so that the stud hole was completely surounded by the steel from the rim. What exactly is a recess punch?

-josh
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RE:Handmade 23 Aug 2006 03:28 #20

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J.H. shoeing wrote:
Don't forget the riders maybe a little overweight and slightly intoxicated. .
Wow, so it's NOT just a VA thing :D

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RE:Handmade 23 Aug 2006 03:31 #21

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Andrew Grimm wrote:




What do you do in a situation like I was in where the horses feet need more than just an tight fit with little expansion?The feet I was dealing with had dished toes, flat soles, crushed and under run heels. If I have to fit them tight I will however, I don't like to especialey with feet like I was dealing with.
Thanks Derin for the info.


Andrew Grimm

Andrew,

I would do what you have to to keep the horses sound and the shoes in place during Fox Hunting season.... use the off season to make major corrections

JMO,

Derin
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RE:Handmade 23 Aug 2006 05:24 #22

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Andrew Grimm wrote:
I just shod some Fox hunters yesterday. My question is why do they have smaller caulks on the inside?
Also, it seems like these people who fox hunt are only concerned with keeping shoes on. The horses I shod yesterday had really crumy feet and a tight fit didn't go well with me and I didn't do it. However, I was warned by the owner that her horses can't be loosing shoes. If so, I'm fired. Not that I care but It seems ridiculous.
Nice work Smitty.


Andrew Grimm


Andrew the calking is the outside heel
and the smaller is the wedge the inside heel

shaped like that so its safe he does not thread
on him self
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RE:Handmade 23 Aug 2006 15:14 #23

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SlowShoe wrote:
What exactly is a recess punch?

-josh
When I was a kid in the 7th grade there was this bully in my class who used to pick on the other kids at recess. One day I knocked him out just as we were leaving the building to go outside for recess. I hit the kid pretty hard. Thay had to take him to the infirmary - so he missed recess. So a recess punch is sort of like a sucker punch that you hit some jerk with at recess.

It's best to not have any witnesses. It also helps if the recipient is twice your size so that nobody will believe that you would attempt such nonsense. If you get in trouble, then you miss recess too. ;)
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Here's the deal. I'm trying to keep it simple.
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RE:Handmade 23 Aug 2006 19:12 #24

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Y'all still had recess in the 7th grade?
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RE:Handmade 24 Aug 2006 01:16 #25

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Derin

It's not a Va. thing. I think it is a rule, mostly unwritten, the fatter and drunker the better and a real lack of riding ability will get you extra credit.



Jaye
I punch them so I could get the rim of steel back into the crease so when I tap them it would be solid. That was the way I was taught to put stud holes in concave stock. Can you show us, like you did the hammer clinches?
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RE:Handmade 27 Aug 2006 00:09 #26

I like the concave on the few I do, you can still use the studs too. Just punch the stud holes instead of drilling.

If you look at some of the shoeing pics Maki has posted you will see a nice "hunter" fit.[/QUOTE]
Thanks Derin! My personal motto is : "ALL horses are fox hunters!" :D
My Mantra is " I hate lost shoes!"

If the foot is decent, a good trim with distortions removed and a shoe that actually fits the foot will cover and not get blown over in a normal cycle. Nearly all my horses are turned out daily and I cover a HUGE area: I can not afford to replace shoes. The time involved and the distances I travel make them a true profit killer.
On a horse with issues I will do whatever i deem neccasary to help the bugger. Nearly all of my lost shoes come from long or full fits: bar shoes, extended heels etc, weighted packages with horses not properly bridled. If its sticking out they will find a way to step on it or catch it on something. ALL horses are fox hunters! :rolleyes:
Jason
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RE:Handmade 27 Aug 2006 21:16 #27

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J.H. shoeing-
Jaye
I punch them so I could get the rim of steel back into the crease so when I tap them it would be solid. That was the way I was taught to put stud holes in concave stock. Can you show us, like you did the hammer clinches?
Ask and ye shall recieve:

I have done one of theses in about 7 or 8 years so forgive the sloppies; a piece of concave
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RE:Handmade 27 Aug 2006 21:17 #28

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The "Recess Punch"
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RE:Handmade 27 Aug 2006 21:19 #29

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I like to punch the branch at an orange heat:
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RE:Handmade 27 Aug 2006 21:20 #30

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At this heat, a tap, turn or spin punch 180 degrees and tap again:
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