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Has anyone figured out how to stop blister? 13 Jul 2006 23:55 #1

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Hello,
I have been trimming A LOT of mares this week. They are getting a pretty agressive trim and the weather is wet. Because of that I have been painting their soles with Hoof Freeze.
I Keep getting this stuff on myself. It blisters the skin right off ya. What can you use to remove this stuff before it begins to eat your skin?
I may look like a lepper but at least these ungrateful, fat, cranky mares toes are cozy. :(
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RE:Has anyone figured out how to stop blister? 14 Jul 2006 00:28 #2

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E,

I don't know about this stuff,but I think the phone # and email I have for you are not good and I'd love to talk to you and hear how your'e doing!!

Could you email me? This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

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RE:Has anyone figured out how to stop blister? 14 Jul 2006 01:35 #3

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Wear latex gloves.

Why is the trim so aggressive? 'Round these parts when the feet get wet and soft, I trim even more conservatively.
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In the immortal words of Ron White: "But let me tell you something, folks: You can't fix S-tupid. There's not a pill you can take; there's not a class you can go to. S-tupid is forever."
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RE:Has anyone figured out how to stop blister? 14 Jul 2006 02:01 #4

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Rick Burten wrote:
Wear latex gloves.

Why is the trim so aggressive? 'Round these parts when the feet get wet and soft, I trim even more conservatively.

The trim is so agressive in the sense that I am dealing with manmade horses that live in the marsh that happen to always be pregnant and seem to be worth quite a bit of money and have fetuses if their belly fertillized by seventy-five thousand dollar sperm. I am taking all precautions to not have a sore horse that may abort or cannot make it to the breeding shed. And I think this prevents abcesses, thwarts white line and at the very least impresses the pig snot out of the farm managers.
I try to always wear gloves but sometimes product gets on my arm or I try to be an rock star and just apply the paint without them on.
I was just wondering if there is an antidote. Thanks
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RE:Has anyone figured out how to stop blister? 14 Jul 2006 02:30 #5

I take an old Tuff Stuff bottle and clean it out real good with acetone. Then you can fill it about halfway up with the Hoof Freeze. Works really good to use the cap for the Tuff Stuff to paint the horses soles. Squeeze out the excess and you dont get it all over your hands.
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RE:Has anyone figured out how to stop blister? 14 Jul 2006 02:50 #6

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e decker wrote:
The trim is so agressive in the sense that I am dealing with manmade horses that live in the marsh that happen to always be pregnant and seem to be worth quite a bit of money and have fetuses if their belly fertillized by seventy-five thousand dollar sperm. I am taking all precautions to not have a sore horse that may abort or cannot make it to the breeding shed. And I think this prevents abcesses, thwarts white line and at the very least impresses the pig snot out of the farm managers.

I re-read this sixteen times and it still makes no sense...... perhaps our definitions differ

please explain why a more conservative trim wouldn't be preferrable especially for such valuable mares as opposed to an aggressive trim with sole paint, etc

in my world, aggressive trims cause abcesses, bruises, lameness and p*sses off trainers, owners and farm managers

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RE:Has anyone figured out how to stop blister? 14 Jul 2006 06:34 #7

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Derin Foor wrote:
I re-read this sixteen times and it still makes no sense...... perhaps our definitions differ

please explain why a more conservative trim wouldn't be preferrable especially for such valuable mares as opposed to an aggressive trim with sole paint, etc

in my world, aggressive trims cause abcesses, bruises, lameness and p*sses off trainers, owners and farm managers

Derin, I was thinking pretty much the exact same thing. :confused:
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RE:Has anyone figured out how to stop blister? 15 Jul 2006 01:21 #8

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I am not sure about the confusion.
I am working on valuable animals.
After I trim, I paint the soles with sole paint.
The horses would probably be fine with out that additional detail; but when you can take precautions why not?
Hope this helps.
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RE:Has anyone figured out how to stop blister? 15 Jul 2006 01:31 #9

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What sort of precautions do you take when dealing with broodstock.
I am sure that I am not the only one that comes across black heels in Feburary or white line disease in a wet June.
What do you do to keep these old cows out of footpacks?
I may not be as old or wise as you all. But I see A LOT of horses due to the location:
"Lexington, Kentucky. Horse Capitol of the World"
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RE:Has anyone figured out how to stop blister? 15 Jul 2006 01:34 #10

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Kenny McAllister wrote:
I take an old Tuff Stuff bottle and clean it out real good with acetone. Then you can fill it about halfway up with the Hoof Freeze. Works really good to use the cap for the Tuff Stuff to paint the horses soles. Squeeze out the excess and you dont get it all over your hands.
Thanks for not being an jerk and offering some help. I appreciate the thought and will implement.
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RE:Has anyone figured out how to stop blister? 15 Jul 2006 01:51 #11

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Derin Foor wrote:
I re-read this sixteen times and it still makes no sense...... perhaps our definitions differ

please explain why a more conservative trim wouldn't be preferrable especially for such valuable mares as opposed to an aggressive trim with sole paint, etc

in my world, aggressive trims cause abcesses, bruises, lameness and p*sses off trainers, owners and farm managers

Derin
I guess I consider the AFA trim the coventional trim. In my world, If I were to have that as my model the horses feet would look like rats had got hold of them after thirty days of living in their environment (the ground forces below and the conformational, wieght, genetic, how long I have had with them (i.e. maiden foot off the track) above) I mean, this is a dysfunctional way to keep valuable animals. Anyone who has ever been here can testify to that mand if not you are welcome to come visit "my world".
I will get some pictures to get at what I am saying.
Thanks for listening to the vent. E
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RE:Has anyone figured out how to stop blister? 15 Jul 2006 02:32 #12

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I was not aware that the AFA had a trim for barefoot protocol. Did I miss something?
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RE:Has anyone figured out how to stop blister? 15 Jul 2006 03:04 #13

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Rick Burten wrote:
I was not aware that the AFA had a trim for barefoot protocol. Did I miss something?

"A Table With All The Trimings", Manning, Dennis, page 10a and 11a; booklet. American Farriers Journal. No date available.
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RE:Has anyone figured out how to stop blister? 15 Jul 2006 03:18 #14

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e decker in gray

I have been trimming A LOT of mares this week. They are getting a pretty agressive trim and the weather is wet. Because of that I have been painting their soles with Hoof Freeze. I Keep getting this stuff on myself. It blisters the skin right off ya. What can you use to remove this stuff before it begins to eat your skin?

The obvious answer is to wear gloves that Hoof Freeze won't penetrate.

Failing that, isopropyl alcohol will remove Hoof Freeze while it's wet; acetone will get it off if it's dry. As soon as you use alcohol or acetone to solvate the Hoof Freeze, use "Goop", or some other waterless hand cleaner to get the solvent off or it'll blister you as badly as the Hoof Freeze.

If you wear any kind of jewelry - ring, watch, bracelet, whatever - remove it before you start painting horses' feet with any kind of iodine-based preperation. I can testify from painful personal experience that Durasole under a wedding band (mine hasn't been off in almost 40 years) will make you consider amputation because it sure's hell couldn't hurt any worse! :)

BYW, what's an "agressive trim?" When I was sentenced to trimming lots of bloodstock, I found leaving 'em with a bit more foot, edges radiused all to hell, and plenty of sole intact, paid dividends in fewer sore horses - especially those that got trimmed twice a year, whether they needed it or not.
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RE:Has anyone figured out how to stop blister? 15 Jul 2006 03:26 #15

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Sorry you are right. At the end of this article this foot is trimmed for shoing.
My point is that, although the AFA trim is all things wise and wonderful, I try to impose a bit more form (shape) into my barefoot work. The trim the AFA recomends would just put my horses in to a "shorter" version of their previous self.
I am glad the AFA is not in charge of trimming horses. At the first Certification I was STOPPED for nor removing enough sole. The Tester told me to trim the sole as I were doing it for my most favorite client to make it smooth and to look nice.
The second time I failed I got the sole trim "better" but the testers had to help me out on the sly by ripping more of the sole out until it yeilded. Jeez. I continued, washed out, and ran out of time.
The third time I failed was the worst. I said "screw the horse, I have sunk enough money into this" and butchered the sole. I failed. At least they had changed their opinion.
I will get some pictures of what I think is a well trimmed brood foot and get you all's take.


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