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TOPIC: Smitty, need advice on welding concave!

Smitty, need advice on welding concave! 25 Feb 2006 00:10 #1

Smitty,
When I am welding concave, I am able to stick and blend the outside, straight edge. I do not seem to be able to weld and blend the concaved edge. What is the secret to the set up, or the hammer, or whatever to weld the whole stock completley. How do you set up your weld? Do yuo bump a little mass into the ends even for an eggbar?
I have a half ( as in outside only) welded bar in my hand, but can't find my camera to show you what I meen!
Thanks,
Jason
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RE:Smitty, need advice on welding concave! 25 Feb 2006 01:45 #2

Just wanted to ask a quick question regarding Concave's. The only real difference is that they are fully fullered right? or am I missing something ?
If they are just a normal full fullered shoe I would just weld it like normal then re-fuller the weld....But I am just blowing smoke... :eek:
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RE:Smitty, need advice on welding concave! 25 Feb 2006 02:05 #3

Me too! I can get it stuck together but it's not very attractive. :confused:
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RE:Smitty, need advice on welding concave! 25 Feb 2006 02:19 #4

The concave has a straight outside edge, a wide deep crease and a cupped or concaved inside edge for filling with dirt... really cool stuff.
I do put the crease back in, but can not seem to weld the concaved surface well.
Jason
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RE:Smitty, need advice on welding concave! 25 Feb 2006 16:38 #5

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Hi all,

I too would like to see 5/8 concave welded in a gas forge that looks decent. You might do OK with the heavier stuff but I'm pretty certain that unless you scarf the fullering until it's almost gone your wasting your time.

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RE:Smitty, need advice on welding concave! 25 Feb 2006 18:11 #6

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Jason Maki wrote:
Smitty,
When I am welding concave, I am able to stick and blend the outside, straight edge. I do not seem to be able to weld and blend the concaved edge. What is the secret to the set up, or the hammer, or whatever to weld the whole stock completley. How do you set up your weld? Do yuo bump a little mass into the ends even for an eggbar?
I have a half ( as in outside only) welded bar in my hand, but can't find my camera to show you what I meen!
Thanks,
Jason

jason its hard to make nice all the time
the best stuff to use for concave

is swan weld
slope your ends and give a good lap over
make sure you have plenty of meet
Smitty88
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RE:Smitty, need advice on welding concave! 26 Feb 2006 03:23 #7

Smitty,
Could you show me what you meen by "slope the ends"? How do you get the meat into the concaved edge to weld it. I can stick the outside and make it okay, but I always end up with a flap peeling up on the inside.
Thanks,
Jason
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RE:Smitty, need advice on welding concave! 26 Feb 2006 18:42 #8

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what type of concave bar shoes do you mean jason
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RE:Smitty, need advice on welding concave! 26 Feb 2006 21:16 #9

That straightbar is beautiful...How did you set it up? How would you set up an egg bar?
Jason
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RE:Smitty, need advice on welding concave! 02 Mar 2006 20:19 #10

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jason this is on the road stuff small pony 12 3/4 of 5/8x 1/4 light iron
concave do your to bend you can have that as your heel or your toe
turn your branch lap them over at the heels about the width of your iron
app you know the rest
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RE:Smitty, need advice on welding concave! 02 Mar 2006 20:35 #11

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done this pony today roled the toe put side clips on
the other bar shoe you liked mark 1 1/2 inc from each end
do your toe bend then round each heel turn just before the mark
like a hocky but more as if you where making a hart
turn each branch lap them over same weld as egg bar
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RE:Smitty, need advice on welding concave! 05 Mar 2006 17:52 #12

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Jason must have been Egg- Bar week
had to make 7 pairs
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