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Making some tools to work 21 Nov 2011 17:06 #1

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we only have a couple of pritchels between us after the break in

so we rattled out 2 today
put a nail imprint on them so we know they ours:D

7" of spring steel






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RE:Making some tools to work 21 Nov 2011 19:30 #2

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Nice
How long did it end up John
and could you talk us through the tempering and hardening proscess mate
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RE:Making some tools to work 23 Nov 2011 18:51 #3

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Red Amor wrote:
Nice
How long did it end up John
and could you talk us through the tempering and hardening proscess mate

Red it ended up 12 3/4"
i just get it cherry red and let it self cool
do it twice it works well
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RE:Making some tools to work 23 Nov 2011 19:26 #4

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Ever made any creasers/fullers John?
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RE:Making some tools to work 23 Nov 2011 19:33 #5

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Anthony_Lawrence wrote:
Ever made any creasers/fullers John?

I havent made any Anthony but not having much tools at the moment
i might have to
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RE:Making some tools to work 24 Nov 2011 01:38 #6

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Thanks John
Ive made a good few over the years
they come up looking good but are soft on the working end
they hold up nice on the end you hit mostly but the point tends to get soft n burr I do dip them often when working them

when you finish making them and your talking about tempering are you cherry redding the hole tool or just the bottom third or so
thanks again mate yeah ;)
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RE:Making some tools to work 24 Nov 2011 06:53 #7

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The hole pritchel Red i mean Cherry (joke)
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RE:Making some tools to work 27 Nov 2011 03:11 #8

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how to temper a pritchel made from spring steel or tool steel using water.
After forging the shape of the pritchel let it air cool. clean up 2-3" back from the tapered end with a piece of emery cloth till you have a bright finish on the metal . Heat the pritchel again slowly concentrating the heat only to the tapped half. In natural day light bring it to cherry red .A poor lit shed the shade of red orange. dip the tapered end of the pritchel half way the length of the pritchell in to at lest a 20L bucket (5 gallon )of fresh cold water for a count of 2 then pull it out .The water will evaporate off then watch for the blue purple heat mark to run towards the end of the pritchel. Just before it runs completely to the end 1/8" dip it again for a count of 4 pull it back out . Watch for the blue purple heat mark again running towards the end of the pritchel. Dip it again for a count of 6.The 3rd heat mark run you dip it at 1" from the end then Sit it on the anvil till it completely cools out. One Importance for successes in tempering any type of metal is not to fatigue the metal in the first place. Working the metal to hot or cold before tempering will create flaws in the metal guaranteeing any tempering process to fail.
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RE:Making some tools to work 27 Nov 2011 10:16 #9

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Jay this seems to work well for us on the spring steel
i reckon if you make 10/12 sets in the day and you your useing it

the right way and it dosent fold up
its a good test for any pritchel.

i find when you have apprentices no matter what pritchels/stamps you
hand them they will drive them into the anvil.

i spent 1 hour solid the other day showing the youngest lad
how to fire for some one

manageing the fire to be able to get the heats right
for every part of the shoe-making system.

this is all important to useing your pritchels and stamps
and forging (right heats)

its somthing i find alot is lads cant manage a coke or gas forge
when shoe-making all day there havent been shown
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RE:Making some tools to work 27 Dec 2011 14:10 #10

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Hey Smitty,
You might want to keep an eye on this:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/110-lb-HAY-BUDDEN-FARRIERS-BLACKSMITH-ANVIL-Forge-Iron-/110797978322?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19cc12fad2

ebay has a lot of good other ones besides this beauty.

I just hate to think what the shipping costs would be over to Ireland though:eek:
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RE:Making some tools to work 27 Dec 2011 14:46 #11

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George Geist wrote:
Hey Smitty,
You might want to keep an eye on this:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/110-lb-HAY-BUDDEN-FARRIERS-BLACKSMITH-ANVIL-Forge-Iron-/110797978322?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19cc12fad2

ebay has a lot of good other ones besides this beauty.

I just hate to think what the shipping costs would be over to Ireland though:eek:
George

George i woudent like that anvil
hope to get somthing new for the van in feb



i did like the cottam one that got nicked on me
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RE:Making some tools to work 27 Dec 2011 14:56 #12

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John, do the police have any hope/info?
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RE:Making some tools to work 27 Dec 2011 14:59 #13

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brian robertson wrote:
John, do the police have any hope/info?

Brian it dosent look good
i dont think i will see any of it again
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RE:Making some tools to work 27 Dec 2011 18:51 #14

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john buy one of mine , i will tyr and post pictures
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RE:Making some tools to work 28 Dec 2011 13:31 #15

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chris bunting wrote:
john buy one of mine , i will tyr and post pictures
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Post the pics Chris
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