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whip acrossed bar shoe. 05 Oct 2011 13:35 #1

Where are some pictures of them? I looked high and low and can't find any. Also could someone explain why? Thanks
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RE:whip acrossed bar shoe. 05 Oct 2011 13:55 #2

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oatey_hocking wrote:
Where are some pictures of them? I looked high and low and can't find any. Also could someone explain why? Thanks
I made a pair for a sidebone horse a few years back. Worked ok I guess but were a bit tricky to make. Are primarily used for Standardbreds. They enable you to use a trailer or even a lateral calk with the bar shoe.
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RE:whip acrossed bar shoe. 05 Oct 2011 14:01 #3

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Any pic? I don't understand what's " whip acrossed".
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RE:whip acrossed bar shoe. 05 Oct 2011 14:28 #4

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A piece of jewelry, but you should be able to get the idea by clicking on the picture in the following link.

http://www.rustybrownenterprises.com/index.php?page=shop.product_details&product_id=42&flypage=flypage.tpl&pop=0&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=55

http://www.rustybrownenterprises.com/index.php?page=shop.product_details&product_id=42&flypage=flypage.tpl&pop=0&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=55http://www.rustybrownenterprises.com/index.php?page=shop.product_details&product_id=42&flypage=flypage.tpl&pop=0&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=55
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RE:whip acrossed bar shoe. 05 Oct 2011 14:32 #5

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I believe if you got to the afa site and download the shoe list for the convention, I think there's a whipacross barshoe on the list. I'm still moving, and I have one somewhere, when-if I find it I will post a pic for you. Top right of the delta shoes, is a whipacross!

http://americanfarriers.hostguardian.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/2012-Rules-PROOF-araine-ver31.pdf
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RE:whip acrossed bar shoe. 05 Oct 2011 15:59 #6

thanks I'm on my phone so I cant open afa shoelist. Ive seen a few but never the "stand
ard" whip acrossed. I was under impression I would need to build a hind shoe? But with mentioning putting on sidebone horses? Thanks
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RE:whip acrossed bar shoe. 05 Oct 2011 17:33 #7

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It's kinda' funny that we see so many of these forged for show out of 3/4x5/16" stock... As I understand it, that's missing the point of the shoe. The reason for the bar is that the shoe is made of stock too light to hold it's shape with a trailer/calk without the heels being connected.

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RE:whip acrossed bar shoe. 05 Oct 2011 17:45 #8

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Millwater Publishing wrote:
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It's kinda' funny that we see so many of these forged for show out of 3/4x5/16" stock... As I understand it, that's missing the point of the shoe. The reason for the bar is that the shoe is made of stock too light to hold it's shape with a trailer/calk without the heels being connected.

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That's also my understanding. The only one I've made (including several in practice) was for a contest judged by Bruce Daniels and it was made from 1/2 inch half round. It needed the bar. As a matter of interest, Jim Keith won that contest and he brought it across, welded the two ends of the bar together, then formed his caulk from that double thickness Great idea!
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RE:whip acrossed bar shoe. 05 Oct 2011 21:13 #9

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Bruce Daniels from New Jersey and Myron McClane from Massachussets
Shod standardbreds when i was just starting out as a farrier back in 71.
This shoe was made out of half round stock and you'd see it on standardbreds.
Cross fireing shoe on rear with a caulk/trailer and connected by a bar.
The caulk was to grab and slow down the foot and possibly turn it asit landed.
The shoe was intended to help stop interfering for sulky horses (standardbreds ) on the race track..

If my memory serves me correct...

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RE:whip acrossed bar shoe. 05 Oct 2011 22:08 #10

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vthorseshoe wrote:
Bruce Daniels from New Jersey and Myron McClane from Massachussets
Shod standardbreds when i was just starting out as a farrier back in 71.
This shoe was made out of half round stock and you'd see it on standardbreds.
Cross fireing shoe on rear with a caulk/trailer and connected by a bar.
The caulk was to grab and slow down the foot and possibly turn it asit landed.
The shoe was intended to help stop interfering for sulky horses (standardbreds ) on the race track..

If my memory serves me correct...

My 2 cents worth



And here it is Bruce as stated by Bruce Daniels - had to dig deep to find this old practice shoe. set slightly under on the medial toe quarter. Two heel nails on that side, nailed around the toe lateraly, made from 1/2 inch half round. Your memory is correct.
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RE:whip acrossed bar shoe. 05 Oct 2011 22:21 #11

Jack,

You're a legend!! Who else could have come up with that.

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RE:whip acrossed bar shoe. 06 Oct 2011 03:48 #12

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evan mickle wrote:
Here's my entry:

Whipacross barshoe - a required shoe for the Cornell farrier school (from which I'll be graduating on Monday).







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Evan's entry in the 2008 competition.
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RE:whip acrossed bar shoe. 06 Oct 2011 11:46 #13

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vthorseshoe wrote:
Bruce Daniels from New Jersey and Myron McClane from Massachussets
Shod standardbreds when i was just starting out as a farrier back in 71.
This shoe was made out of half round stock and you'd see it on standardbreds.
Cross fireing shoe on rear with a caulk/trailer and connected by a bar.
The caulk was to grab and slow down the foot and possibly turn it asit landed.
The shoe was intended to help stop interfering for sulky horses (standardbreds ) on the race track..

If my memory serves me correct...

My 2 cents worth
You're right as usual Bruce.
Let me just add before guys get the wrong idea from looking at all the contest pics that in real life it's almost never used with a calk. Just a trailer will usually suffice. Calks are very radical and hard on horses. If used at all use on old clay tracks never stone dust.
More on lateral caulks can be read about in Care and Training of the Trotter and Pacer by USTA.
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RE:whip acrossed bar shoe. 06 Oct 2011 13:22 #14

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IIRC, the name comes from the fact that the bar is solid and is 'whipped across' from one branch to the other and then welded to the other branch such that as has been noted, a trailer and (if needed) caulk can still be forged from that branch.
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RE:whip acrossed bar shoe. 06 Oct 2011 14:56 #15

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Rick Burten wrote:
IIRC, the name comes from the fact that the bar is solid and is 'whipped across' from on branch to the other and then welded to the other branch such that as has been noted, a trailer and (if needed) caulk can still be forged from that branch.
Yes,
Another point of possible interest is they're also sometimes referred to as "canadian bars"

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