Alicia Thompson wrote:


Where do you buy shoes that fit precisely out of the box? Don't they have to be shaped or modified to fit precisely? How about a lateral extension straight bar shoe. can you buy one that fits? I bet Smitty can make one that will fit precisely in a short time while your running around looking for one and never finding it. I'm all for saving time and making money but without the skills retained from the tradition/history of this trade your lacking in providing what the horse may need on a given day. Buy what you can but make sure you can make what you need when the need arises.

Also, owners perceptions really are not what drives what I do. It's advertising and marketing that THEY see and want, but it may not be what the horse needs. So are you going to do what the owner wants or what thehorse needs. Just cause a shoe is bright and shinney in a magazine doesn't make it the best shoe for the job. Educate them and you won't have to listen to homade, you'll get, wow those shoes you made really made the difference.

All just my opinion.

smitty88 wrote:
Well Smitty like most things perception is a personal thing.

We all see the world differently, and yes I do actually consider myself damn precise when I set up a horse.

My clients love that I will make tiny little changes then watch them move only to make another little change to improve on the results till we are all three owner, farrier and horse quite happy. I am always the last of the three to be satisfied.

As a rider and one who spends a lot of time watching my clients horses move and work, the results are what matters to me not materials used.

BS-Horseshoeing wrote:
Totally 100% agree, And uh damn right I could make one, no problem. But honestly I don't think buying stuff means you suck. Of course I shape every shoe I apply, I do not however see the need for everyone to do things in the exact same manner.

BS-Horseshoeing wrote:
Well I actually agree with them. Remember I am OCD so it matters to me that the human eye cannot possibly make shoes every cycle for years that are the same exact weight, and exact weight distribution, same exact fullering as to how it effects stride, same exact roll to the fraction of a mm. Exactly the same rise on a wedge again to the mm.

As a rider I have felt the significant difference the millimeters can make.

I choose to let a machine set to exact parameters deal with that.
Machines do this and do this precisely. I will take it from where they stop and then customize it to the horse.

Again not saying another way is wrong just getting a bit cheesed off that others think their way is the only way.

Alicia Thompson wrote:
Can you tell when a freshly shod horse stands on concrete and puts a roll into one toe and not the other??:confused::cool:

smitty88 wrote:I thought the job was about horses . . .

BS-Horseshoeing wrote:Why not roll your own concave?

How about running your own foundry?

There's a bunch of stuff done by machines that one could engage in as AMATEUR PURSUITS, and then turn around and say if you don't do this you are taking short cuts. Just don't expect me to take that sort of BS seriously.

Alicia what does OCD stand for?

Anthony_Lawrence wrote:Oil Conservation Division

http://www.emnrd.state.nm.us/ocd/

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Anthony_Lawrence wrote:
Obsessive compulsive disorder, its not uncommon in farriers
If its Osteochondritis then its gona be a short career

david a hall wrote:Indeed:D

I've always wondered if that phrase is tautological. :confused:

Check with the Department of Redundancy Department.

tbloomer wrote:

Tom,did anyone take it that far? Were talking about having skills to do this job, not the skills to make the products to make the stuff to do this job. You take things to far. If you got a problem with oraganizations and thier theories, go tell them.

Alicia Thompson wrote:

I have to disagree. Machines change with time and wear so in a couple years there will be differences. If you can as you say feel the difference a millimeter can make, then after a while you will need to change t newer shoes made with newer equipment. I'd say Smitty and others could make shoes that are very close in weight, dimension, and mods.

BS-Horseshoeing wrote:
Tack shop sells St Croix lites and Diamond Broncos. 90% of the time I can just nail them on. Shaping might mean closing the shoe or hooking the heels if they're navicular.