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RE:bench grinder, belt sander, expander wheel 19 Jan 2012 00:00 #16

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Alicia Thompson wrote:
.p.s. you never enlightened my on strawberries.
Sorry. I think he meant generic bruising.

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RE:bench grinder, belt sander, expander wheel 19 Jan 2012 08:44 #17

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Tom - My new Baldor just arrived and I want to get one of the disks you use to sharpen rasps. I know you said scotch-brite but I am not finding any locally.

Is it simply an ultra fine deburring disk?

Bill I am going to go check out your grinder album. Thanks for mentioning it is on here.p.s. you never enlightened my on strawberries.

http://www.shop3m.com/61500149911.html

You need to stack 4 or 5 of the disks on the spindle. Baldor grinder is overkill for this job. I use a cheap 6" buffer from Harbor Freight.

http://www.harborfreight.com/6-inch-buffer-94393.html
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RE:bench grinder, belt sander, expander wheel 19 Jan 2012 21:25 #18

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tbloomer wrote:
http://www.shop3m.com/61500149911.html

You need to stack 4 or 5 of the disks on the spindle. Baldor grinder is overkill for this job. I use a cheap 6" buffer from Harbor Freight.

http://www.harborfreight.com/6-inch-buffer-94393.html

I had to go Baldor as it was the only one I knew had the larger capasitor.
Thanks for the link and info.
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RE:bench grinder, belt sander, expander wheel 19 Jan 2012 21:40 #19

Alicia Thompson wrote:
I had to go Baldor as it was the only one I new had the larger capasitor.
Thanks for the link and info.

you wont regret it
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RE:bench grinder, belt sander, expander wheel 20 Jan 2012 08:41 #20

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Alicia Thompson wrote:
I had to go Baldor as it was the only one I knew had the larger capasitor.
Thanks for the link and info.

On my Baldor I put a multitool belt on one side and a 10" expander wheel on the other side.
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RE:bench grinder, belt sander, expander wheel 20 Jan 2012 14:21 #21

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Re: RE:bench grinder, belt sander, expander wheel 29 Mar 2012 13:30 #22

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I have purchased 31 7/64 inch belts for 10 " expander wheels in the past. I have been offered some 36 grit ceremic belts at a good price but the company tells me that they can only ct them to 31 1/8 inch length. 1/64 inch longer. I have seen that some companies sell a 31 1/8 inch belt ,I looking for opinions as to weather the 64th of an inch would make a difference.



Thanks in advance

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Re: bench grinder, belt sander, expander wheel 30 Mar 2012 16:03 #23

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Ray,

I bought some belts for my expander wheel online about 6 months ago and they seemed to fit pretty loose. When I was grinding the belt would shift around on the wheel. One time is even got lose and rolled about 300 ft LOL.

I now buy belts at my local supply shop and they have to be worked on but they stay put even when I press the shoe into the wheel to expedite the grinding process.

I haven't measure any of the belts but I would have to say the extra length would make a difference.
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Re: bench grinder, belt sander, expander wheel 30 Mar 2012 17:26 #24

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Seth,

thanks for the info, can you tell me what size belts that you are purchasing that you are satisfied with, there is a Norton belt that was sized
as 31 1/8" that I told folks have not had trouble with.

Thanks again

Ray Steele
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Re: bench grinder, belt sander, expander wheel 30 Mar 2012 20:56 #25

Seth,

What RPM does your grinder run at. I have a Jet that the expander wheel ( 6 inch, Multi-tool on the other side ) runs well on. I tried it on my Baldor, which only runs at 1800 RPM, and it jumped around like a monkey XXXin' a football.

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Re: bench grinder, belt sander, expander wheel 30 Mar 2012 22:05 #26

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Good point, Rick. An exact 10 inch diameter wheel has a circumference of 31.1416 inches or 31-27/64 inches. A 31-7/64 inch belt would be an exact fit on a wheel 9.902 inches in diam and a 31-1/8 inch belt would be an exact fit at 9.907 inches diameter. I can't really believe the .005 inches would matter with all else equal. Or put another way, the 31-7/64 belt has a 20/64ths interference while the 31-1/8 would have 19/64ths on a true 10 inch wheel. Not enough to matter much, In fact I doubt either the wheels or belts are manufactured to tolerances this tight (0.005 inched on wheel diameter or 1/64 = 0.016 on belt length but the rpm would matter a great deal. Centrifagal force is the square of rpm). Caveat: this is pure math, not experience speaking.
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Re: bench grinder, belt sander, expander wheel 31 Mar 2012 11:29 #27

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Well now I know why Rick Shepherd and Jack Evers get the big money round here! Science! wow,who would have ever thought that rpm's could have anything to do with it!

In my pea for a brain .. a 31 7/64 belt might work perfectly on a 1800 rpm wheel but the 31 1/8 belt might walk because the centrifical force is not generated as high where as the same two belts ,the same wheel ,mounted on a 3000 rpm machine might not notice any difference in tension because the force is great enough to "expand" the wheel significantly. Why didn't I think of that!

Well ,that's a pint of stout for each of you ,on me. The Stout offer expires on July 4th 2012, if you don't collect by then I'll have yours and report to you about how good they were!

Thanks ,

Ray Steele
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