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TOPIC: 6" buffer

6" buffer 04 May 2011 00:03 #1

so i bought a ryobi 6" bench grinder (i know we should buff our knives at 1800 rpm but for $45 i can quench more often and use the 3600 rpm machine...i know other guys who use it fine) i ran it with the included 36 and 60 grit wheels and it was smooth.. then i took the guards off and mounted a 6" ryobi buffer wheel on one side and nothing on the other side.. also ran great... then i added a grooved felt wheel to the other side and now the whole thing dances all over the workbench and shakes the bench to hell too! even after screwing it down same problem minus the dancing haha

any ideas??
thanks
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RE:6" buffer 04 May 2011 00:53 #2

Make sure the wheels are centered on the madrel.
The harder I try the luckier I get.
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RE:6" buffer 04 May 2011 01:05 #3

Matt McMicken wrote:
Make sure the wheels are centered on the madrel.

ill try that


is it a problem that the felt wheel has a bigger diameter than the cotton? it shouldnt since the cotton runs fine by itself
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RE:6" buffer 04 May 2011 01:08 #4

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I have the same problem with a cheap one I bought. It worked fine for a while and then went out of balance. I just use the buffer on one side. I figure for the price to get it fixed I could buy another.
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RE:6" buffer 04 May 2011 01:10 #5

Eric- so you only use the cotton wheel and no grooved felt wheel?
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RE:6" buffer 04 May 2011 02:31 #6

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justincase289 wrote:
Eric- so you only use the cotton wheel and no grooved felt wheel?

I have the broke buffer in my truck that I do m daily sharpening on. I don't know what you call the one thing I have on it. I have other buffers and sanders in the shop that I use to make a new knife sharp.

(the wheel I use, I think is yellow on the sides)
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RE:6" buffer 04 May 2011 02:41 #7

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justincase289 wrote:
ill try that


is it a problem that the felt wheel has a bigger diameter than the cotton? it shouldnt since the cotton runs fine by itself

There's your problem. the wheel gets off center and you have vibro buff.
You should be able to find a bushing at a good hardware store.

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RE:6" buffer 04 May 2011 03:03 #8

Bill Adams wrote:
There's your problem. the wheel gets off center and you have vibro buff.
You should be able to find a bushing at a good hardware store.

the felt wheel has a bushing so it fits snug :/ and i checked the diameters and both cotton and felt wheels are 6"
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RE:6" buffer 04 May 2011 03:12 #9

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There's your problem. the wheel gets off center and you have vibro buff.
You should be able to find a bushing at a good hardware store.


Might be a bent shaft.

As I recall, Little Jeffy bought a mail order Baldor with a similar problem - I think he returned it to the seller and it now resides in a place hithertofore thought anatomically impossible to attain. :)
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RE:6" buffer 04 May 2011 03:16 #10

Tom Stovall, CJF wrote:
Bill Adams in gray

There's your problem. the wheel gets off center and you have vibro buff.
You should be able to find a bushing at a good hardware store.


Might be a bent shaft.

As I recall, Little Jeffy bought a mail order Baldor with a similar problem - I think he returned it to the seller and it now resides in a place hithertofore thought anatomically impossible to attain. :)

the cotton wheel works great on either side as do the 36 and 60 grit whels it is only the grooved felt wheel thats squirly
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RE:6" buffer 04 May 2011 04:54 #11

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justincase289 wrote:
it is only the grooved felt wheel thats squirly

Then throw out the piece of shi....:D Won't be the first thing you'll buy that don't pan out.
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RE:6" buffer 04 May 2011 05:08 #12

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Off topic but what compound do you guys use for sharpening?


on topic..the wheel is out of balance somehow.
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RE:6" buffer 04 May 2011 10:52 #13

i use a green compound i dont know the details on it, they just sell it as green compound at our supply house. it works well

and thanks.. is there any way i can balance it or find out where it is out of balance?
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RE:6" buffer 04 May 2011 12:27 #14

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justincase289 wrote:
i use a green compound i dont know the details on it, they just sell it as green compound at our supply house. it works well

and thanks.. is there any way i can balance it or find out where it is out of balance?

I also just use the green compound for sharpening, it's the least abrasive or "final" stage of compound. My supply house also has the black and white I think the black is the most course and the white is the medium.

As far as that wheel goes, your best bet is probably just to throw it out. However, if you're determined to save it, you might use some kind of compass to make sure it is round and not oblong. If it's oblong, cutting it back to a round shape may help but, you'll probably end up doing all that just to throw it away anyhow.

David
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RE:6" buffer 04 May 2011 21:52 #15

Try to return it for a refund. If it is out of round, it is dangerous.

The green compound is more course than the white. It works well on sharpening the edge. Courser than green is grey, which will polish the blade, and even courser is the black, which will take out deep scratches, and heat your blade up rapidly. The white is quite fine, and is OK for removing the feather on the back side of the edge, but is quite inefficient for actually sharpening.

I use a diamond stick for the initial edge touch up, then the green compound on a sewn cotton wheel.

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