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RE:how much is to much 17 Dec 2010 21:39 #16

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Jack Evers wrote:
A size one shoe made from 1/2 by inch would weigh about twice as much as a size 1 plain. About 25 oz. My "Sunday go to meeting" dress shoes weigh 21 oz. Surely those horses can pack a little more than I can.

I would recommend an E head nail. City heads aren't intended for steel that thick.

think theyed walk like their wearing swim flips ? Can't have them kicken them selfs in the nose lol. Thanks guys
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RE:how much is to much 18 Dec 2010 00:34 #17

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J.H. shoeing wrote:
Why don't you just not trim but every other shoeing (8weeks) and drive slims in the first set and regular city heads in the next set thru the same nail holes in the foot.

I shoe some that get a brush to the bottom of the foot and a hot shoe and a nipper run every other shoeing year round.

I have found that my hand mades will last a lot longer than most keggers.

John, sounds like 11 3/4-12 inches of 3/4" wide steel with a full bump in the toe.

Thank you Jeff I have a few that don't grow much and I think this nail variation will help me greatly.
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RE:how much is to much 18 Dec 2010 01:14 #18

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I may be wrong but I think that the light shoe craze is some what of a recent (last 75 - 100 years ) phenomenon. If you look in most older texts the dimensions given for shoes are normally out of much heavier stock that what is typical to today. The thing is that horses in those days had to work for a living, they were not pets and they seemed to carry out their job quite well carrying a big juicy piece of iron nailed on. The light shoes, in those days, seemed to be used only on race horses. I think you can get a little carried away with weight but I believe that most horses can mange quite well with a good bit more steel than we normally hang on them. Like I said, I may be wrong but that is what I have observed.
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RE:how much is to much 18 Dec 2010 14:52 #19

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Dogwood Forge wrote:
I may be wrong but I think that the light shoe craze is some what of a recent (last 75 - 100 years ) phenomenon. If you look in most older texts the dimensions given for shoes are normally out of much heavier stock that what is typical to today. The thing is that horses in those days had to work for a living, they were not pets and they seemed to carry out their job quite well carrying a big juicy piece of iron nailed on. The light shoes, in those days, seemed to be used only on race horses. I think you can get a little carried away with weight but I believe that most horses can mange quite well with a good bit more steel than we normally hang on them. Like I said, I may be wrong but that is what I have observed.

weight probably dose not make a lot of difference but I still wonder. My horses ware light plates or go bare foot most of the year because their not being used and in relatively soft ground however in the spring and fall they ware heavy hand made rims and I can feel the difference in their movement witch may be the shape more then the weight. I have not ben around many horses that wear weight only a few old gatted horses with problems and I wonder if it was the weight or the messed up angles and long toe.
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RE:how much is to much 18 Dec 2010 14:58 #20

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Would to see these handmades. Any pics?
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RE:how much is to much 18 Dec 2010 20:23 #21

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Would to see these handmades. Any pics?

this is one out of scrap pile. didn't use because ended up to fine on one branch but it pretty well reps. What im using on these ponies 1" 3/8" 12.5" im thinking of using these on another horse do in jan. Maybe get picks of one on a foot
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RE:how much is to much 18 Dec 2010 20:25 #22

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PerformanceHorseshoeing wrote:
Would to see these handmades. Any pics?

this is one out of scrap pile. didn't use because ended up to fine on one branch but it pretty well reps. What im using on these ponies 1" 3/8" 12.5" im thinking of using these on another horse do in jan. Maybe get picks of one on a foot. (Be gentle im delicate)
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RE:how much is to much 18 Dec 2010 20:39 #23

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This is a kerk. After six weeks on another ranch horse on top of new diamond sp.
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RE:how much is to much 18 Dec 2010 20:53 #24

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Made from 3/8 for corn. Probably Not full dimension when done. I don't remember how long on horse. Was quinched.
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RE:how much is to much 18 Dec 2010 21:10 #25

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Sorry last pic didn't load
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RE:how much is to much 18 Dec 2010 21:20 #26

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Better pic of same shoe
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RE:how much is to much 19 Dec 2010 02:25 #27

If you are to worried about weight you could try to get your hands on some 1/2 by 3/4 concave and give that a shot. Bump about an extra 1/2 into the toe of the concave for the horse to ware out.
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RE:how much is to much 18 Feb 2011 22:31 #28

check out this site
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RE:how much is to much 19 Feb 2011 00:57 #29

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Jack Evers wrote:
Friend of mine down your way (the one I visited in Hachita) was running for the year end competitive trail award many years ago. He went to a three week cycle using clips and four nails, alternating nail holes on each shoeing.

Off topic I know but I drive through Hachita once in a blue moon heading down to Palomas Mexico from the ranch. I know I am a spoiled new englander but that is one seriously God forsaken place isnt it. We had a couple cowboys with us in the truck and all you could hear from the back seat was the occasional "holy C rap, people really live here?"
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RE:how much is to much 19 Feb 2011 01:35 #30

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Off topic I know but I drive through Hachita once in a blue moon heading down to Palomas Mexico from the ranch. I know I am a spoiled new englander but that is one seriously God forsaken place isnt it. We had a couple cowboys with us in the truck and all you could hear from the back seat was the occasional "holy C rap, people really live here?"

You got it, Jim. After a divorce, he'd been shoeing out of a living quarters trailer and alternating between El Paso and Phoenix if you can imagine that. When he got a new girl friend they moved to Hachita because it was halfway and cheap. They were only there a couple of years before they could afford better.
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