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how much is to much 17 Dec 2010 15:22 #1

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I've got two working ranch horses that are just flat eating their shoes off in a month . Customer dose not mind a one month rotation but their feet look like they were in a gun fight. I tried hardening the shoes and customer complained about the horses slipping in the rocks. I've gone to 3/8 by one bar. Hand mades and their lasting longer but my question is. How much steel can I hang under their feet befor I start causing other problems. Their both quarter h with one fronts and o hinds. Advice would be a help. Customers happy im not thanks
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RE:how much is to much 17 Dec 2010 15:45 #2

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I have one here she only rides road:(

13 pins in each shoe and stud holes .
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RE:how much is to much 17 Dec 2010 15:59 #3

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Friend of mine down your way (the one I visited in Hachita) was running for the year end competitive trail award many years ago. He went to a three week cycle using clips and four nails, alternating nail holes on each shoeing.
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RE:how much is to much 17 Dec 2010 17:05 #4

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could you not put some borium on them, that should make them last longer?
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RE:how much is to much 17 Dec 2010 17:20 #5

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ray tyron wrote:
I've got two working ranch horses that are just flat eating their shoes off in a month . Customer dose not mind a one month rotation but their feet look like they were in a gun fight. I tried hardening the shoes and customer complained about the horses slipping in the rocks. I've gone to 3/8 by one bar. Hand mades and their lasting longer but my question is. How much steel can I hang under their feet befor I start causing other problems. Their both quarter h with one fronts and o hinds. Advice would be a help. Customers happy im not thanks

Ray what size foot are we talking about
any pics
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RE:how much is to much 17 Dec 2010 18:50 #6

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Why don't you just not trim but every other shoeing (8weeks) and drive slims in the first set and regular city heads in the next set thru the same nail holes in the foot.

I shoe some that get a brush to the bottom of the foot and a hot shoe and a nipper run every other shoeing year round.

I have found that my hand mades will last a lot longer than most keggers.

John, sounds like 11 3/4-12 inches of 3/4" wide steel with a full bump in the toe.
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RE:how much is to much 17 Dec 2010 19:02 #7

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Ray. These two are in ruff steep uneven country with a lot of shelf rock. Any hard spots in the shoe tend to act like ice skates. Bor. Helps but shoe wares down around it and puts a lot of stress on the nails and as these two range two hundred ac. Pasture when not working and may go days without being seen im a little hesitant to use clips. Jack. Im staggering nail holes but having to drive pretty high to keep clinch out of the rock and as I said the client is happy and as ranch is 60 miles out shorter cycles would suck. 3/8 is working id like to go thicker but im concerned about the weight and what im using is pretty heavy. I've ben working with a couple of old gated horses with tendons like baseball bats and I think this is the results of wearing boat anchors for to long ?but as jack pointed out in another thread they don't stay heavy long. Smitty. Their both about 1 front 0 hind thanks guys
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RE:how much is to much 17 Dec 2010 19:08 #8

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You could go 1x1/2 make to fit E5
no problem
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RE:how much is to much 17 Dec 2010 19:14 #9

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J.H. shoeing wrote:
Why don't you just not trim but every other shoeing (8weeks) and drive slims in the first set and regular city heads in the next set thru the same nail holes in the foot.

I shoe some that get a brush to the bottom of the foot and a hot shoe and a nipper run every other shoeing year round.

I have found that my hand mades will last a lot longer than most keggers.

John, sounds like 11 3/4-12 inches of 3/4" wide steel with a full bump in the toe.

have gone two and three cycles with out trimming. Just rasp flat and nail on. Have gone from fives to six c. h. At times. In six weeks 3/8 looks like silver paint.
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RE:how much is to much 17 Dec 2010 19:35 #10

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No pic. Of horses. These were taken on ranch where ponies live canyons two hundred feet deep. Smitty you don't think the weight will be a prob. They don't get a break. Shoes year round. Bare foot don't work to far to food and water.
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RE:how much is to much 17 Dec 2010 19:42 #11

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yep no problem
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RE:how much is to much 17 Dec 2010 20:00 #12

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Sorry pics don't illustrate my point. How's this
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RE:how much is to much 17 Dec 2010 20:37 #13

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smitty88 wrote:
yep no problem

six city head?
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RE:how much is to much 17 Dec 2010 21:17 #14

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A size one shoe made from 1/2 by inch would weigh about twice as much as a size 1 plain. About 25 oz. My "Sunday go to meeting" dress shoes weigh 21 oz. Surely those horses can pack a little more than I can.

I would recommend an E head nail. City heads aren't intended for steel that thick.
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RE:how much is to much 17 Dec 2010 21:22 #15

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Glaze the toe and heels with a bit of borium.
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