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Pferd Hoof Plane 20 May 2010 23:35 #1

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Wednesday, Got the new Hoof Plane from Ray Steele/Horseshoes Unlimited.

Day 1, 5 shod all the way around: 2 TBs, 2 half drafts and 1 cob.

Pro: No bloody finger tips, no grabbing/break in period. The hoof comes off like wood curls from a wood plane (it's a little weird looking but bigger shavings for the dogs to eat). Cutting teeth the full length of the tool. Very easy to push, light weight compared to a Heller Legend or Save Edge. I'm going try to remember to weigh it tomorrow.

Con: doesn't really fit my favorite handle. I need to radius the corners on the opposite end from the tang, they are very square. $75 seems a little steep BUT if it truly out performs a conventional rasp 4 to 1; it could be a great deal.

Tommorrow lots of Morgans to trim in the AM, TBs to shoe in the PM
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RE:Pferd Hoof Plane 21 May 2010 01:21 #2

Brian,

Please keep us updated, i would like to try them, I bought a box of save edge the other day and am not impressed with the rasp side, the file side does a good job of finishing but the rasp side dies in a couple horses. The simonds red tang has a better rasp side but not so good a file side. imo.:confused: I normally sharpen my rasps a couple times on the felt wheel with some green compound and normally use the red tangs, and they sharpen well. Sharpening helps a little with the save edge but not as good as the red tang.
Layne Giesbrecht, CF
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RE:Pferd Hoof Plane 21 May 2010 02:52 #3

I have been using them for about 4 months now. Love them. Worth every penny. I get about two weeks out of one before I move them to a finish rasp. Sometimes less. Not that often though. Sharpen well on a wheel as well. But I can only get a couple more days out of it that way. But hey a couple of days is still good in my mind. I think that I have gotten spoiled. I used to use one for three to four weeks now I think they are dull after two week tell I grab a save edge that is three days old and I run back to the three week old hoof plane.
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RE:Pferd Hoof Plane 21 May 2010 04:04 #4

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$75.00 a rasp, really?
Nicci

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RE:Pferd Hoof Plane 21 May 2010 04:14 #5

how often do you go through a save edge at $21 a pop. I averaged 2-3 days before. Now I have a rasp that goes two weeks easy. You do the math. If you don't do a ton of horses and a save edge last you two weeks then you could get about two months out of one of these.
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RE:Pferd Hoof Plane 21 May 2010 12:07 #6

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hoofinit wrote:
$75.00 a rasp, really?

Hi hoofinit,

to clarify,

$75.00 usd for a Hoof Plane, not a rasp! As Brian pointed out , it doesn't act like a rasp!

the breakdown

$60.00 usd for the Hoof Plane
$15.00 usd approx shipping and ins. for a 2 lb pkg



in boxes of 5 Hoof Planes per

$60.00 usd per Hoof Plane
$19.00 usd for shipping and ins. the 7 lb pkg to the same address as above

using the same math , $64.00 usd per


I very interested in hearing from Brian and others after they work The Plane a few more days,

I would comment more about what I have found but I figure anytime someone has their finger in the pie and stands to profit, then his/her opinion might be a little suspect, so I'll wait.


Regards

ray steele
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RE:Pferd Hoof Plane 22 May 2010 00:56 #7

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Day 2: 13 Morgans (flinty hard clubbed footed, a few foundered) trimmed. 1 Clydesdale & 2 TBs 4 shoes each.

This plane takes hoof off, scary fast.

The first TB, AFTER the Clyde, well, I got alittle carried away. This horse's reset usually consists of: pull shoes, wire brush sole, trim up frogs, run a rasp around enough to clean the wall and re-burn the shoe. I got a little greedy with "The Plane" and had to include "a free pair pads & packing to the friendliest TB today." Won't make that mistake again
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RE:Pferd Hoof Plane 22 May 2010 02:50 #8

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whats this thing look like? it's a rasp ain't it.
Justin Hill's Horseshoeing
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http://gorgefarrier.com/

I'm just another guy that play's in a lot of other peoples Poop... for a living I might add
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RE:Pferd Hoof Plane 22 May 2010 03:23 #9

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hmmm sounds like it might be really nice to have around for the rock hard hooves.. normal hooves would get the heller.
Nicci

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RE:Pferd Hoof Plane 22 May 2010 03:41 #10

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RE:Pferd Hoof Plane 22 May 2010 22:44 #11

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Day 3: Did 2 of my own, Cleveland Bay/TBs 4 shoes each. Still feels like new.

Justin, The fine side is similar to a rasp but the business end is unlike anything I've used in 39 yrs. I know it sounds like a commercial but it's like your "planing" that foot not filing it. When you push this thing it really does peal hoof off like a wood plane. It's very easy to remember to lift it on the backstroke so no scrubbing is happening.

I'm still waiting to see if I can get 3-4 weeks out of this thing.

I admit, that because of the cost, I have been overly careful about cleaning these feet; no little stones, no sand , no old nails, etc...
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RE:Pferd Hoof Plane 23 May 2010 10:47 #12

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Report to me from another farrier about the Pferd Hoof Plane, 3 commentaries


(paraphrased)
The plane went from awesome and that it clears easily of mud.............. to, after 22 trims and resharpened, and it did not sharpen as well as a Bellotta. He will keep it as a finish file since it leaves such a nice finish, would be interested if the price was about 20% less.


Still waiting other comments.

regards

ray Steele
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RE:Pferd Hoof Plane 23 May 2010 13:03 #13

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ray steele wrote:
Report to me from another farrier about the Pferd Hoof Plane, 3 commentaries


(paraphrased)
The plane went from awesome and that it clears easily of mud.............. to, after 22 trims and resharpened, and it did not sharpen as well as a Bellotta. He will keep it as a finish file since it leaves such a nice finish, would be interested if the price was about 20% less.


Still waiting other comments.

regards

ray Steele

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RE:Pferd Hoof Plane 23 May 2010 20:42 #14

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Ray,

So it is shaped like a regular rasp? As you might know I've moved to AZ and the feet are waaaaay harder than the NY feet.

I'm interested, where can I order one?
Kim Cassidy
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RE:Pferd Hoof Plane 24 May 2010 01:01 #15

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irishcas wrote:
Ray,

So it is shaped like a regular rasp? As you might know I've moved to AZ and the feet are waaaaay harder than the NY feet.

I'm interested, where can I order one?

Kim,

the "course cutting side" is what would be called a milled cut as opposed to what you know as a rasp . i.e. instead of pushing the teeth up out of the steel blank as with a rasp these teeth are cut into the blank and undercut. the "serration" is what is known as a chip breaker. The fine side is similar but different to what you are used to .

They are more along the lines of a file but like Brian posted, they ,plane the material . longer shavings, vs the "chips" that a rasp makes. Maybe think the difference between sawdust and wood shavings, using that comparison, think of the difference of marks that a saw makes vs what a plane makes in wood.

Like the rasp you are used to, they are tanged , but you will probably need to adjust the tang to your favorite rasp handle or your handle to the tang, when all else fails , drill a hole in a golf ball and drive it on! The other end is square,which may or may not be to your liking. a couple of folks have posted the Pferd site and there are some pictures. I have some in stock and more coming in.

Regards

Ray Steele
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