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Severed DDFT 08 Nov 2005 00:25 #1

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I have been asked to make a shoe for a 4 year old mare who severed her DDFT right above the bulbs of her heels. The DDFT is sliced through completely and without elevating the foot, the vet does not have faith the tendon will heal. The vet wants her to be under stall rest for at least 8 months. Because of the lack of forging skills in the area, he wants me to give a shoe a try, otherwise the horse will be put down. I am pretty sure I can do this, but was looking for some suggestions.

The vet wants the shoe to keep the heel elevated 2" off the ground. Currently the horse is standing with her pastern touching the ground and her toe lifted. She has a small stall, so the chances of the shoe being pulled are slim. I plan on using a shoe according to Doug Butler's instructions in an article I have.

Amy
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RE:Severed DDFT 08 Nov 2005 01:13 #2

Amy,
An effective alternative to forging a high lift shoe is using several 4 and 3 degree full wedge pads assembled together.

I used this set up for a horse that had shattered a hock. I trimmed and cleaned up the hoof (standing on my head - so as not to move the hock) :o
Then I disinfected the hoof, slathered hawthorne's sole paint on it, stuffed it full of Forschner's hoof pack then nailed on the first pad.

I used a drill to countersink a hollow spot above the nail heads on the underside of the second pad. Each subsequent pads I marked where I was going to screw them into the pad beneath it. Drilled and countersunk pilot holes for them through each pad.

I rasped the package to follow the lay of the hoof wall so that the base of the package of course was much wider than the hoof side of the package.

As the horse's hock mended and he began using the leg ( first during stall rest, then in a stall sized paddock, then a small corall, then eventually out to his regular paddock); I would rasp the ground surface of the pad to "trim" the hoof, and remove a pad as needed while his hoof continued to grow.

At the end of three months I removed what was left of the pads and trimmed his hoof, and reapplied the pads. When the horse began trotting on his own and doing little buck jumps, We finally took the pads off and trimmed him normally.

The creppitation in the hock ceased at around 5 weeks and he eventually became sound enough to be ridden lightly by a little girl in the paddock!
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Kim

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RE:Severed DDFT 08 Nov 2005 01:16 #3

NHFarrier wrote:
Because of the lack of forging skills in the area,

Huh? :confused:

A patten shoe isn't that hard to make once you know the process. I can think of a dozen farriers in the MA,VT,NH area that could show you how to make one.

How big a horse is this? 2" is a lot of lift. You and the vet can use a stack of wedge pads to figure out exactly what you need rather than guessing.
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RE:Severed DDFT 08 Nov 2005 01:34 #4

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The vet was the one who told me the horse should have 2" of lift. I wasn't planning on going quite that high. The horse is about 14.1 hand, small built QH mare. The horse is stabled out in the boonies. The owner can not afford to pay one of the farrier's used to forging this type of shoe to come out.
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RE:Severed DDFT 08 Nov 2005 01:47 #5

Do you know how he came up with that number?

I wasn't suggesting someone else do it, just show you how. ;) There's no rule that says you cant trim the foot trace and measure a pattern then go make it with somebody in the shop. :D
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RE:Severed DDFT 08 Nov 2005 01:48 #6

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What about EDSS?



http://www.horseshoes.com/advice/ovnicek2/apteqdgs.htm

Im sure meader's can get you that stuff asap.
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RE:Severed DDFT 08 Nov 2005 03:41 #7

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I knew what you meant :) , I would like to see someone make this shoe before I try it, too. I like the idea of pads so if it was too much or not enough it would be easier to change.....
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RE:Severed DDFT 08 Nov 2005 09:39 #8

Hi Amy,


Without X rays and pics it's hard to really come up with a good idea, but I read somewhere about this trick apparently Danny Ward came up with.

Just weld a steel pipe to the shoe. By moving it forward you can get to the desired angle. If you want to lower the elevation just smack the pipe!

It's cheap, not too heavy and sounds like it would work.


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RE:Severed DDFT 08 Nov 2005 13:13 #9

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Ronald Aalders wrote:
Hi Amy,


Without X rays and pics it's hard to really come up with a good idea, but I read somewhere about this trick apparently Danny Ward came up with.

Just weld a steel pipe to the shoe. By moving it forward you can get to the desired angle. If you want to lower the elevation just smack the pipe!

If you ever get to visit Danny's shop, you'll see the original hanging on a wall. It came from Central Illinois and its mate is hanging in my garage :o

There is also a good article in , I believe, an issue of the AFJ that shows how to build an adjustable Patten bar shoe using several pieces of aluminum bar stock stacked and bolted to a shoe.

When I built the prototype pipe patten shoe, I forged several shoes to fit the afflicted foot and then welded pipe with decreasing OD(outside diameter) to each. Thus I created a series of shoes that went from 2 1/2" of lift to 1/2" of lift in 1/2" increments. The shoe was for a horse that had severed the blood vessels, nerves and DDFT below the fetlock in a hind foot(interesting story of how that happened, maybe for another thread?)
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RE:Severed DDFT 08 Nov 2005 14:56 #10

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There is no need to forge a patten bar shoe.
It can be done with a shoe and a stack of wedge pads screwed together. This also allows for adjustability.
The standard EDSS as illustrated lacks the extra caudal support needed for tendon lacteration treatment. Support has to extend further out the back.

EDSS has a short video available on how to modify that system for tendon lacerations using a stack of wedge pads (screwed togrether so they can be lowered gradually if needed) that extend out the rear of the packag to add caudal support . And can be adjusted by adding or removing pads. Using either a band saw or a coping saw to cut the pads it is not too hard to do. A cordless screw gun is also necessary. Give EDSS a call for asistance.
Now I am NOT selling EDSS to help this horse, so don't everyone jump on me for this referral! You would NOT have to use the EDSS shoe as the base this! (even though it is a lot easier) .
The video is to give you information to create your own package from another shoe if you want.
However if you use another shoe, you would still have to rocker a toe so some forging would be necessary. (or else you have to rocker it cold if you are REALLY strong)
If you do not have a rocker toe to create some flatter area to load on the toe of the foot, the foot will tend to shear the nails and slide off the front. Patty
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RE:Severed DDFT 08 Nov 2005 15:12 #11

Since Patty brought it up, personally I never liked Patton kind of shoes. I prefer wedges too. There is no reason to go with EDSS any blocked or square toe will do together with a couple of wedges.

Frankly I don't even like rail shoes all that much. If anything wedges (full pads) provide full support, can easily be injected with pour in hoof pack ánd guarantee lift even when footing is very soft.

With pads the heels won't be pushed in the ground as raised rails can be.



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RE:Severed DDFT 08 Nov 2005 18:01 #12

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With pads the heels won't be pushed in the ground as raised rails can be.
Agree. That is another thing I forgot to mention. Rails are only effective on hard ground.
As well, the bar of the pattern bar shoe can sink in and even possibly restrict the foot from coming OUT of the ground as the horse tries to move around, if it gets into soft stuff. (thereby pulling on the healing tendon) A stack of pads offers much more stable ground (and frog) support .
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RE:Severed DDFT 08 Nov 2005 20:39 #13

Have the attending veterinarian place the foot in a lower limb / foot cast at any angle he/she desires. A window can be placed in the back of the cast for wound care if necessary. Problem solved!

Stephen E. O'Grady, DVM, MRCVS
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RE:Severed DDFT 08 Nov 2005 22:43 #14

Hey! What about our retirement plans!!


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RE:Severed DDFT 09 Nov 2005 02:05 #15

Seriously, making a patten shoe isn't a big deal. Anybody who has the skill to make a normal barshoe and the mental capacity to fold a paper airplane can be taught to make one to fit. It doesn’t require a special trip to Home Depot or a call to the supplier and a two day wait.

If this were a skill Amy had already developed, it would already be on the horse and that in itself would increase the chances for a positive outcome.
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