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RE:Homemade stall jack 15 Sep 2009 01:48 #16

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stuff deletedTom Stovall, CJF wrote:

My old stalljack is not near as fancy, but it beats using a truck bumper to flatten a shoe and the trailer ball hole to hook a heel - which some of us have done at one time or another.

I built it about 30 years ago and I still think it's as handy as a pocket on a shirt.

I had to take the electric hot rasp to it to get the rust off.

Mr Tom,
Looks a lot like mine!lol Mine's made to go in the top of the hoof stand though. Easier than trying to drive the spike through the concrete isle.

Would have to use the lectric hot rasp on mine as well. They're bout the same age though, last decade or so mines done more burr sets in leather than shoein!
Don't be so hard on the ol bumper,I got a Reese stub modified into a stall jack! Real handy for a "quickie"

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RE:Homemade stall jack 15 Sep 2009 02:05 #17

cuttinshoer OFFLINE Master Posts: 1629 Thank you received: 1 Karma: 0	Norvall nice looking deal, try preheating your thicker steel before you weld it your welds will come out with better penetration, probably won't matter though on a stall jack. I bet you welded the cam on the left second. push don't pull your gun. Justin
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RE:Homemade stall jack 15 Sep 2009 02:54 #18

Bradley-1stChoice OFFLINE Master Posts: 1965 Thank you received: 2 Karma: 1	Nice, but at 50lbs + it is more like an anvil, sortta . . . :confused: I thought a stall Jack was meant to be portable. I am surprised it doesn't have a small, rocker toe attachment.
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RE:Homemade stall jack 15 Sep 2009 02:59 #19

Gary Hill OFFLINE Guru Posts: 5298 Thank you received: 6 Karma: 4	Bradley-1stChoice wrote: Nice, but at 50lbs + it is more like an anvil, sortta . . . :confused: I thought a stall Jack was meant to be portable. I am surprised it doesn't have a small, rocker toe attachment. Bradley, you one funny guy!
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RE:Homemade stall jack 15 Sep 2009 12:30 #20

NorvalWilhelm OFFLINE Master Posts: 1059 Thank you received: 2 Karma: 0	Bradley-1stChoice wrote: . I am surprised it doesn't have a small, rocker toe attachment. I actually have a tool made up for rockering toes. You know that already but it works slick so where is the harm?? I can rocker a toe anywhere I want, precise as I want and all in a few seconds.
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RE:Homemade stall jack 15 Sep 2009 13:11 #21

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NorvalWilhelm wrote:

I actually have a tool made up for rockering toes. You know that already but it works slick so where is the harm??
I can rocker a toe anywhere I want, precise as I want and all in a few seconds.

No harm Slim,

But can you do it quickly on your stall jack at the horse . . .

I mean that is what a stall jack is for,
quick adjustments at the horse . . . Yes ??? No ???. :cool:

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So Mr. Wilhelm
Here is a helpful hint/tip, and it starts with
You tend to be very defensive in all of your posts,
It can come across as anger.
So some people jump all over you, and
some of us just have you on our ignore list.

Yes I know you have a Rocker Toe Machine,
and yes I was only Ribbing/teasing/funning you.

So with that in mind, you might look at lightening up some,
I could/would do your heart and mind good.

Bradley SaintJohn

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RE:Homemade stall jack 15 Sep 2009 13:28 #22

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I don't understand the attitude being directed at Norval. He simply posted a few photos of a gadget that he fabricated. He does it for fun. He made no comments about being better or more talented than anyone else.

Baron, I understand you have to be mediator as well as moderator, but there are two sides to every proposition and Norval has made some extremely condescending statements in the past, the most insulting of which imply working farriers are routinely gouging their clientele.

He didn't make any comments about his farrier skills. Nothing. Just posted photos of something he made for fun. Yet some people jumped all over him with comments disparaging his shoeing skills, and just generally badmouthing him. Why? Nothing better to do with your time?

Personally, I don't handle condescension very well. In the real world, the quality of farriery is not related to how long a shoe stays on or how much the job costs - and a farrier's morality is damn sure NOT related to his willingness to subsidize owners' luxuries.

If you don't think it has any use, don't comment. If you like it, give it a nice comment. There's no need or reason to pound on him for showing what he does for fun.

In the nomenclature of farriery, a "stalljack" is a light, portable anvil that's usually moved from hoof to hoof during the course of shoeing. While I'm sure his masterpiece may have many uses, it sure as hell is NOT a stalljack.

Some of you just don't have ANY idea where the line is.

I apologize for segueing into ad hominem, but it takes two to tango. Insult farriers, insult me.

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RE:Homemade stall jack 15 Sep 2009 15:54 #23

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Tom Stovall, CJF wrote:

Baron, I understand you have to be mediator as well as moderator, but there are two sides to every proposition and Norval has made some extremely condescending statements in the past, the most insulting of which imply working farriers are routinely gouging their clientele.

I appreciate your understanding. (Really!!) But we must strive to keep things in context, and compartmentalized by thread topic. Or all would be chaos. Norval's comments in other threads aren't relevant to this thread. This thread is about a gadget that he built as a hobby. Bringing in other "baggage" serves no purpose and is wrong. When he makes disparaging comments, then you're "in the right place," and by all means comment. But he didn't in this thread, and nobody should have.

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In the nomenclature of farriery, a "stalljack" is a light, portable anvil that's usually moved from hoof to hoof during the course of shoeing. While I'm sure his masterpiece may have many uses, it sure as hell is NOT a stalljack.

No one is debating whether or not Norval's gadget is really a stalljack. I think it's a morphed anvil thingy. But that's my opinion. If it makes him happy to call it a stalljack, who really cares? Still, it is an interesting somethingorother.

I apologize for segueing into ad hominem, but it takes two to tango. Insult farriers, insult me.

No argument concerning your last sentence. But in this particular case he didn't insult anyone, and therefore did not insult you. So I see no reason that you, or anyone, should "pull" the thread in that direction just to beat up on him for other perceived sins.

OK, back behind the curtain....

Baron

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RE:Homemade stall jack 15 Sep 2009 19:42 #24

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NorvalWilhelm wrote:

This is not new but it works for me. It is make from a 2 inch thick slab of stainless I had kicking around. I added all the features I thought I would need and if anything didn't suit me I changed it. It has a sturdy set of turning cams, sturdy pair of pins through which a shoe fits nicely, a hole and on the other end a horn of different sizes to expand a shoe.
It doesn't ring or bounce and while sturdy is still easy for me to take to the horse. The pit marks on the surface are from 20 years of straightening shoes with borium on them

On days off you could put a saddle on it .mulzi funktion,groovy ding das ding!!

Ray Knightley.Farrier .Germany.

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RE:Homemade stall jack 15 Sep 2009 19:55 #25

halfmiler OFFLINE Senior Member Posts: 338 Karma: 0	put a head on it and it could double as a roping dummy
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RE:Homemade stall jack 15 Sep 2009 20:19 #26

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halfmiler wrote:

put a head on it and it could double as a roping dummy

halfmiler, and Ray Knightley etc.

imagine this if you can,

put a horseshoe on the item in discussion , pick up a hammer ,

could it work as a "stall jack"?

The man says it's easy to bring to the horse,must be portable,

the man says that he shapes horseshoes on it,

the man does/did not call it an anvil,

what makes it not a stalljack?

Regards

Ray Steele

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RE:Homemade stall jack 15 Sep 2009 20:28 #27

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ray steele wrote:

halfmiler, and Ray Knightley etc.

imagine this if you can,

put a horseshoe on the item in discussion , pick up a hammer ,

could it work as a "stall jack"?

The man says it's easy to bring to the horse,must be portable,

the man says that he shapes horseshoes on it,

the man does/did not call it an anvil,

what makes it not a stalljack?

Regards

Ray Steele

Don`t get me wrong ...I like the look of it!!
The only thing is it is hard to see the size ...we used a triangel 2" steel plate with 3 legs weight about 4kg stands about 6 " off the ground for years ,I have a square plate with a hole and two upsided down horseshoes for legs now..

it would be good to put a everyday object next to the Jack here as ,reference to size ....in germany that would in most cases be a beer bottle-

Ray Knightley.Farrier .Germany.

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RE:Homemade stall jack 15 Sep 2009 20:35 #28

Bradley-1stChoice OFFLINE Master Posts: 1965 Thank you received: 2 Karma: 1	Ray_Knightley wrote: The only thing is it is hard to see the size ... it would be good to put a everyday object next to the Jack here as ,reference to size ....in germany that would in most cases be a beer bottle- Ray, He said he made it out of 2" plate which makes it, by looks, 6 " wide and 14" long . . .
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RE:Homemade stall jack 15 Sep 2009 21:08 #29

ray steele OFFLINE Master Posts: 1042 Thank you received: 4 Karma: 1	Bradley-1stChoice wrote: Nice, but at 50lbs + it is more like an anvil, sortta . . . :confused: I thought a stall Jack was meant to be portable. I am surprised it doesn't have a small, rocker toe attachment. Bradley, does that thinking mean that the Cliff Carrol 35 lb Anvil advertised in the marketplace is not an anvil , but a stalljack? regards Ray steele
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RE:Homemade stall jack 15 Sep 2009 21:18 #30

halfmiler OFFLINE Senior Member Posts: 338 Karma: 0	Mr,Steele,i imagine one could shape shoes on that contraption but it just dont seem to me like its a verry portable nor time savining device, but thats my opintion and you know what they say about opinions dont you? they are like as$ holes,everyone has one.
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