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working on a square horn 14 Feb 2009 21:29 #1

my mentor just gave me a Mankel anvil. it has nice really sharp edges but a square horn. how the heck to you work hot shoes on this thing :o

i have some bigger anvils with round horns but the edges are chewed up. i want to use this anvil for a bit and then try one of his other anvils and maybe this spring buy an emerson or scott. He also has a pallet full of anvils and I hope to try all of them at some point. any tips on making shoes with this one especially front ones? I understand how to make them on a round horn but this square one is wierd. he uses a round horn and told me just to make hind shoes for a while. :)

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RE:working on a square horn 14 Feb 2009 22:41 #2

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I believe the flat horn probably evolved from manufactured shoe availability. Opening toes, straightening branches, bringing heels in etc.

It is not impossible to build shoes on that style of horn but they are better suited to shapeing keg shoes. Get a round horn if you want to build shoes. You can do a fine job of shaping keg shoes on a round horn also. The round horn just has more versatility.
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RE:working on a square horn 15 Feb 2009 01:52 #3

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I have a square horn and make handmades on it. I guess it takes some getting used to. I'd much rather have a round horn though.
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RE:working on a square horn 15 Feb 2009 03:37 #4

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I have a square horn and make handmades on it. I guess it takes some getting used to. I'd much rather have a round horn though.
Is that why all of your shoes have square toes??? Do you need a clip starter as well???
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RE:working on a square horn 15 Feb 2009 03:43 #5

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Huh? I didn't think they had square toes. I've been fitting the toe more and more lately because I feel like it is more correct. I've never tried a clip starter, I use a cross pien.
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RE:working on a square horn 15 Feb 2009 03:59 #6

PerformanceHorseshoeing wrote:
Huh? I didn't think they had square toes. I've been fitting the toe more and more lately because I feel like it is more correct. I've never tried a clip starter, I use a cross pien.
Is your cross - pien Broke???
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No:confused:
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RE:working on a square horn 15 Feb 2009 04:06 #8

Is your hammer hand sore???
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RE:working on a square horn 15 Feb 2009 04:12 #9

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Is there a reason you have a problem asking questions that contain some information? I haven't the slightest idea what you're getting at, and I don't think he does either. Being obtuse isn't a virtue.

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RE:working on a square horn 15 Feb 2009 04:14 #10

Cyber Farrier wrote:
Is there a reason you have a problem asking questions that contain some information? I haven't the slightest idea what you're getting at, and I don't think he does either. Being obtuse isn't a virtue.

Baron
It's definatally a valid question, You may learn something here Baron!
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RE:working on a square horn 15 Feb 2009 04:28 #11

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It's definatally a valid question, You may learn something here Baron!

Quite possibly so. I learn every day. So, please explain your question(s), and let us understand the reasoning behind them. Then perhaps they may be able to be answered, or discussed, and learning shall ensue.

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Jake Whitman wrote:
Is your hammer hand sore???

Not as much as it needs to be but I've been too busy lately with other things.
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Just a guess. Pre-clipped shoes in the posted pictures?
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RE:working on a square horn 15 Feb 2009 04:32 #14

See Baron, What could you learn from this young Man??
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RE:working on a square horn 15 Feb 2009 04:56 #15

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You gotta work over the side of the anvil, holding your shoe at a 45° over the horn, either on the near or far side, and swing your hammer to match.

I never knew there was a difference until after I bought an anvil, and still haven't worked on a round horn.
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