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Tong adjustment 03 Dec 2008 16:07 #1

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I have a pair of 5/16 Chip Hunt tongs that I got through the school, and noticed last time I used them that the grip on the stock just wasnt there. Our instructor showed us how to adjust them using a vise and oxy-acetaline torch, but I just cant remember the details. What do y'all do? We wont get into tool making til after we go back in January, and I'd like to do some shoe building in my time off.

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RE:Tong adjustment 03 Dec 2008 19:01 #2

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OK first off get some 5/16 flat bar, less than 10 inches in length. Heat the jaws and about a third of the reins which is easist in a gas forge. Then once the jaws and reins are a bright red colour place the flat bar in the jaws of the tongs and clamp the jaws in a workshop vice. Grab a pritchel and place the wide surface about a third of the way up the reins from the jaws and squeeze the reins to the pritchel. This will give you a suitable distance between the reins to hold the material comfortably. Then once you have done this, remove the tongs from the vice, wire brush them and cool them out.

Should take you no longer than a couple of minutes and can be done whilst your steel is heating up in the forge.

Hope that helps, not very good at explain things in writing, better at explaining things in person :cool:
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RE:Tong adjustment 03 Dec 2008 23:27 #3

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Thanks a lot. That was a good description. I'll have to try it. They told us at school something about keeping the rivet out of the fire, is why I asked.
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RE:Tong adjustment 03 Dec 2008 23:42 #4

Dan Puckett wrote:
Thanks a lot. That was a good description. I'll have to try it. They told us at school something about keeping the rivet out of the fire, is why I asked.


You can also use an oxy/cetlyne torch and just heat the area behind the jaw stamps ahead of the rivet.
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RE:Tong adjustment 04 Dec 2008 02:21 #5

And don't forget when cooling it in water make sure to do it in a lot of dunks while continuously opening and closing them so they don't "freeze up". I was told they will stick solid of you cool them too fast or don't move them but it seems to work really well. Thank God I haven't had to find out if you don't do those steps.lol :D
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RE:Tong adjustment 05 Dec 2008 02:32 #6

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I get the jaws red and gently hold a shoe and tap the jaws against the shoe with the hammer flipping it to both sides a couple of times to keep the adjustments even. Don't hold too tight or you will close the reins. If you want the reins open more get the jaws hot and holding them in the hardy hole, pull the reins apart a bit. May have to readjust so do the spreadind part first.

A rightous man regardeth the life of his beast. Proverbs 12:10
I don't give a damn for a man who can only spell a word one way. Mark Twain
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RE:Tong adjustment 05 Dec 2008 05:02 #7

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Bill Adams wrote:
I get the jaws red and gently hold a shoe and tap the jaws against the shoe with the hammer flipping it to both sides a couple of times to keep the adjustments even. Don't hold too tight or you will close the reins. If you want the reins open more get the jaws hot and holding them in the hardy hole, pull the reins apart a bit. May have to readjust so do the spreadind part first.

or you can throw a Jeff Holder temper tantrum destroying a good pair of 3/8 tongs and order another pair:eek:

FYI- you CAN make them look like a C if you repeatedly strike the horn of a 100 pound anvil, in my experience it is usually the second swing that gets 'em.
Jeff Holder

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RE:Tong adjustment 06 Dec 2008 06:17 #8

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J.H. shoeing wrote:
or you can throw a Jeff Holder temper tantrum destroying a good pair of 3/8 tongs and order another pair:eek:

FYI- you CAN make them look like a C if you repeatedly strike the horn of a 100 pound anvil, in my experience it is usually the second swing that gets 'em.

You're lucky you didn't pinch your fingers real good.

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RE:Tong adjustment 06 Dec 2008 23:13 #9

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Bill Adams wrote:
You're lucky you didn't pinch your fingers real good.

thats what started this whole episode
Jeff Holder

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RE:Tong adjustment 07 Dec 2008 04:02 #10

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You gota get some tongs that are smart enough not to hurt you like that.

A rightous man regardeth the life of his beast. Proverbs 12:10
I don't give a damn for a man who can only spell a word one way. Mark Twain
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RE:Tong adjustment 08 Dec 2008 21:47 #11

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Bill Adams wrote:
You gota get some tongs that are smart enough not to hurt you like that.

Jeff just has to find some tongs that aren't smarter than him! ;)
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RE:Tong adjustment 09 Dec 2008 01:38 #12

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SlowShoe wrote:
Jeff just has to find some tongs that aren't smarter than him! ;)

hahahahahahahahahahahaha;)
Jeff Holder

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RE:Tong adjustment 01 Feb 2009 05:43 #13

aaronshorseshoeing wrote:
And don't forget when cooling it in water make sure to do it in a lot of dunks while continuously opening and closing them so they don't "freeze up". I was told they will stick solid of you cool them too fast or don't move them but it seems to work really well. Thank God I haven't had to find out if you don't do those steps.lol :D


Aaron,

Is this in reference to using your tongs when working shoes/stock? Perhaps not necessarily reworking your tongs?

My tongs could use some work. I was researching tong adjustment online and found http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Z10rFfPT10 Roy Bloom suggests air cooling your tongs after reworking them.

What do you do?

Thanks, Julie :-)
Julie Plaster
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RE:Tong adjustment 01 Feb 2009 17:06 #14

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I heat the jaws to a dull cherry red, place them onto the appropriate size stock (in this case 5/16) in a bench vice or stick them with the piece of stock betwen the jaws down into the hardy hole ,if the hole is the right size to hold them together, and just pull the handles open a little.
Then air cool.
Patty Stiller CNBF,CLS
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RE:Tong adjustment 01 Feb 2009 17:09 #15

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I never adjust my tongs
i mostly use a 3/8 and 5/16 pair on a daily use

dont go cheapy if your buying tongs
Smitty88
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