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TOPIC: Anvil Choice

Anvil Choice 02 Nov 2008 16:56 #1

Trying to decide between

JHM Certifier 100LB
https://www.anvilbrand.com/store/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=623


TFS 100LB (can't find anyone who has any opinions on them) Clip horn looks a
little better than the JHM.
http://www.farriercorral.com/TFS-Farriers-Anvil-100lb-p/anvil%20-%200041.htm

Delta Future 3 (not sure about the aluminium) How are these on a wood stand? Loud? Solid? Like the long horn.
http://www.centaurforge.com/Delta--100-lb-Future-3-Anvil/productinfo/18DELTA3/
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RE:Anvil Choice 02 Nov 2008 20:55 #2

I was looking at the JHM, and really like the Future used one all summer took a while to draw good clips on the clip horn tho, I currently have a short sugar and am happy with it, I got it because its what we use at school so I'm used to using it makes things easy that way.


The Future I used was mounted on a metal stand and was a lot quieter than the short sugar on the same kind of stand.


I would lean towards the JHM because the clip horn is sorta like the short sugar I use.


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RE:Anvil Choice 02 Nov 2008 22:38 #3

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What you want in an anvil is pounds, at least 100 of them or the equlialevent in mass with alum base.
Rebound is just as important.
Round horn is also important.
Your clips will improve with practice and you don't really even need a clip horn.
Don't get heel cams for bending heels, how ever I like having them for shaping up nail holes with clips on the shoes. Also those are good for smithing projects other than shoes.
I have used a JHM 125 lb. for sixteen years and have never wished I had something else.

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RE:Anvil Choice 02 Nov 2008 23:04 #4

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The best anvil going right now is the Scott anvil. Super solid. No frills,no gadgets. Great big face and big round horn.
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RE:Anvil Choice 02 Nov 2008 23:09 #5

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Of the three you should choose the JHM.
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RE:Anvil Choice 03 Nov 2008 00:49 #6

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We had some JHM 100# anvils in the college equipment . Nice anvils. Not ringy, and a solid feel too. Good edges.
I like the Future Anvils as well, and if you are going to be having to lift your anvil at all, consider the extra cost of the Future as a back saver.
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RE:Anvil Choice 03 Nov 2008 01:09 #7

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I carry a future 3 in the truck. No ring, solid, wide face, don't use the clip horn.
If you intend to do a lot of handmades or forging of some sort,follow Bill's recommendation of weight and horn shape. Along with JHM, Emmerson makes a very good anvil.

Mark Sullivan CF
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RE:Anvil Choice 03 Nov 2008 03:51 #8

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I currently use the 'Future 4' (Offset Horn) but I just bought the 'Future 1' to use as well. I will kick one back to work on in the shop and turn shoes and projects on this winter. I'm curious as to how the Future 1 will work for me since I am so used to the round and offset horn of the Future 4.

I use my Future Anvil on a TFS Aluminum stand. It is about 90% solid, but if I place a good barrage of heavy blows back at me on the horn, it will walk around on concrete or other smooth surfaces. Although I am darn near deaf, it produces minimal sounds. No ringing at all.

http://cgi.ebay.com/New-%2F-Old-Stock-Delta-Future-1-Farrier%2FBlacksmith-Anvil_W0QQitemZ220297905706QQcmdZViewItemQQimsxZ20081020?IMSfp=TL081020114001r31694

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RE:Anvil Choice 03 Nov 2008 04:15 #9

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You can see in my what I use daily. One thing, with the alum base, it is lighter in and out of the van. I don't use the clip horn, pull clips on the face. The turning cams are great for cleaning out nail holes after clips are pulled (as already stated). I like my Future.
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RE:Anvil Choice 03 Nov 2008 04:18 #10

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T. Wm. HALL wrote:
I currently use the 'Future 4' (Offset Horn) I'm curious as to how the Future 1 will work for me since I am so used to the round and offset horn of the Future 4.

Trevor

Trevor, I think you will find the Future 1 will be good in the field. It is great for shaping the back shoe branches, less work. For making shoes, I like my round horn better, but I do make shoes on my Future as I know how to work with it.
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RE:Anvil Choice 03 Nov 2008 04:22 #11

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Matt,

That anvil that we were talking about from Ebay is the one I just got. I too have a small 5" chunk of rail that I keep in the shop for odds and ends things. I used it to flatten a shoe on it the other day, but didn't turn any heels.

I used to drive truck for a company that hauled rail and rail parts dismantled from rail yards. Beware of the 'rail yard dash'.....if you lose the race, they go straight for felony charges!! ;)

I bought a Journeyman Anvil several months back to give to a friend, I believe it was 110# or there abouts. It had a good round horn, and I really liked it actually.

I started out on the NC 70# Big-Face, it was a good little anvil, and I shaped a lot of shoes on the dang thing! I got rid of it a long time ago, but I still wish I had it around to play with! I had the metal stand that went with it, along with the foot vise. It was hard on my elbows, the steel on steel produced fairly unforgiving effects.

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RE:Anvil Choice 03 Nov 2008 04:23 #12

TFS 100LB (can't find anyone who has any opinions on them) Clip horn looks a little better than the JHM.
http://www.farriercorral.com/TFS-Farriers-Anvil-100lb-p/anvil%20-%200041.htm

Delta Future 3 Like the long horn.
http://www.centaurforge.com/Delta--100-lb-Future-3-Anvil/productinfo/18DELTA3/[/QUOTE]


I had my own anvil poured, and was silly and didn't include some extras.

I like the two above, because they have round clipping horns,
which you can use to draw a clip without a bubble.

If I was doing it again, I would get an anvil with a round clipping horn.
Bradley SaintJohn

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RE:Anvil Choice 03 Nov 2008 04:30 #13

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Bradley,

I have pulled all clips off the face, but have had to first knock a bubble. So with the new anvil, and the rounded clip horn, I can just draw the clip out without pulling a bubble first?

I've heard of guys grinding out a clip shaped 'swedge' into their clip horn to draw the material into.

Trevor
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RE:Anvil Choice 03 Nov 2008 04:54 #14

T. Wm. HALL wrote:
Bradley,

I have pulled all clips off the face, but have had to first knock a bubble. So with the new anvil, and the rounded clip horn, I can just draw the clip out without pulling a bubble first?

I've heard of guys grinding out a clip shaped 'swedge' into their clip horn to draw the material into.

Trevor

I don't have any photos of it, but if you can bear with a written explain:

For a toe clip hold the foot surface of the shoe on the clip horn
laying about a quarter/third of the web to it.
Holding the shoe down at a slight angle, start to draw the clip,
lowering the shoe as you go,
and just dont stop till the clip is made.

Pretty simple. It has been about 4 years since I have done one that way.
But there are times I wish I had the round clip horn.
Bradley SaintJohn

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RE:Anvil Choice 03 Nov 2008 05:08 #15

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I saw a guy use the corner of the face to draw out the bubble like Bradley said.
The trick is to do more and each better than the last.

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