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RE:Pulling clips 24 Feb 2009 03:32 #61

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No I was never to a Catholic school, not even Catholic, but was a Drill Sergeant!! I tried talking to the young man, but he wasn't listening, so found the taping on the elbow worked!! And yes, after his elbows stopped flying around, he started pulling some good straight clips. He was almost as smart as a horse, only had to smack his elbow about 3 times.
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RE:Pulling clips 25 Feb 2009 19:08 #62

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RE:Pulling clips 26 Feb 2009 00:38 #63

this might be a **** question but can you use a bob punch on shoes that aren't creased or made from concave? I made a bob punch the other day and haven't had much luck pulling clips with it... yet

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RE:Pulling clips 26 Feb 2009 02:22 #64

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Yes, you can use a bob punch on flat shoes. If you get a chance to watch a Bob Marshall tape you will see it is quite easy.
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RE:Pulling clips 26 Feb 2009 03:35 #65

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Smitty,
You should post the pics on the Pics site on the F&HRC place. Would be better to view. I do like doing the bobpunch thing. I use it all the time on concave steel.
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RE:Pulling clips 26 Feb 2009 06:10 #66

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Mikel,
I tried with no luck
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RE:Pulling clips 26 Feb 2009 06:20 #67

dieselfarmer wrote:
this might be a **** question but can you use a bob punch on shoes that aren't creased or made from concave? I made a bob punch the other day and haven't had much luck pulling clips with it... yet

thanks



There has been great advise about pulling clips in this thread. I like that to see this board add to practical skills as well. However the great forge masters all left three (!) important things out where pulling clips is concerned:

1: practise
2: practise
3: practise

Jason, learning to draw clips is not about making one bob punch or whatever you use. Its about making a hundred bob punches! In the end I promise you you can pull a clip with a piece of barstock in stead of a hammer. Draw clips over and over again. Keep on doing it, save all old shoes, draw clips on new shoes, old shoes. Draw clips on shoes that are to thin to draw clips from. Draw clips at heels, quarters and toe. All in one shoe. If there is no space anymore reverse the shoe and draw clips the other way towards the ground side. Who cares? Its a forging excercise! Draw clips with a big hammer, with a small hammer, with the round side, with the flat side. Draw clips with a carpenters hammer, draw clips with a piece of barstock. You'll learn how to as long as you keep on drawing clips. Everybody can learn how to forge, really. It's just about doing it and doing it OFTEN!



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RE:Pulling clips 26 Feb 2009 17:31 #68

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Ron's got that right!! I have spent many hrs just pulling clips. In the long run it pays off. And I am still not as good as I wish I was, so I keep pulling them so I can get better.
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RE:Pulling clips 26 Feb 2009 19:58 #69

O and allthough a lot of people use them, I would gotten my a*s kicked big time if I would have even suggested using a starter for my clips. My mentors would have told me, if you need a starter, make your own shoe out of a bar that is too wide. Forge it smaller leaving it wide at the place for the clip. Thát's you starter.

Where are those shoers that were always right? :rolleyes:


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RE:Pulling clips 26 Feb 2009 21:56 #70

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Ron,
as easy as it looks its not everybody can pull consistant good clips
any type

you have to be shown first and maybe from different farriers
as it might not sink in with one or two shown you

i get to see alot of young app from 1 to 4 years done
and clipping can be a problem

i know what your saying practice practice
but if not regularly shown you keep making the same mistakes

like you Ron i dont like those clip starters
a bit like clinching lads wanting to start with the clinchers
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RE:Pulling clips 26 Feb 2009 22:11 #71

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Ronald Aalders wrote:
O and allthough a lot of people use them, I would gotten my a*s kicked big time if I would have even suggested using a starter for my clips. My mentors would have told me, if you need a starter, make your own shoe out of a bar that is too wide. Forge it smaller leaving it wide at the place for the clip. Thát's you starter.

Where are those shoers that were always right? :rolleyes:


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Thats the way we start our clips on the shoes we make here .draw out each branch leaving the same thickness in the centre to pull over for the clip (front shoe)

Ron, Question i was shown years back how to draw clips on sliders ,that the ground surface was not effected ,the guy did it some how on an edge of his anvil small clips but enough to help say if you have a box kicker..??
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RE:Pulling clips 26 Feb 2009 22:16 #72

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Are you talking masolette clips (spel) Ray
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RE:Pulling clips 27 Feb 2009 16:33 #73

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smitty88 wrote:
Are you talking masolette clips (spel) Ray
is that french for refreshing???
smitty ??
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RE:Pulling clips 27 Feb 2009 19:35 #74

There is no special trick Ray, just a neat small clip is what you need. If you pull a small but strong clip you will affect the ground surface a bit. No horse I ever pulled a clip on was ever bothered by it. And I use clips a lot to help stabilise a slilder.


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RE:Pulling clips 28 Feb 2009 02:13 #75

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Ray,

If you use a clip horn, the source hole is on the foot side of the shoe. Is that what you're talking about?
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