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Sigafoos Series II Cuff Failure 31 Jul 2008 22:38 #1

Dances with Hooves OFFLINE Master Posts: 1345 Thank you received: 5 Karma: 3	Had my first Cuff fail on a series II. Guess I should have done the riviet thing at the heels. Is anyone riviting? How many rivits and where? Anyone got any alternatives to the heat bonded series II to address a glue on application with frog support?
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RE:Sigafoos Series II Cuff Failure 31 Jul 2008 23:52 #2

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George_Spear wrote:

Had my first Cuff fail on a series II. Guess I should have done the riviet thing at the heels. Is anyone riviting? How many rivits and where?

Anyone got any alternatives to the heat bonded series II to address a glue on application with frog support?

I saw a series II that came off of a horse in Mass with rivets and I have to say I did not like the idea. First thing that came to mind was risk of pushing into the foot the rivets were through the rim pad 4 copper rivets one in each heel and two in the toe This rim pad compresses over 50%. If rivets are risky on leather pads I would think they are very risky on these shoes. Just my thoughts.

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RE:Sigafoos Series II Cuff Failure 01 Aug 2008 23:50 #3

reillyshoe OFFLINE Master Posts: 2690 Thank you received: 7 Karma: 4	George_Spear wrote: Had my first Cuff fail on a series II. Guess I should have done the riviet thing at the heels. Is anyone riviting? How many rivits and where? Anyone got any alternatives to the heat bonded series II to address a glue on application with frog support? Do you know what the date was on the series II plate?
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RE:Sigafoos Series II Cuff Failure 03 Aug 2008 10:33 #4

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Pat,

Probably an older one and I've now got a better "platform" to hold the cuff at the right height under the toaster oven element. This one could have failed due to the cuff being cooked improperly not product failure.

Built a better cuff platform and applied a flat treaded plate to my test horse with known good heating of all surfaces. I've got a plate coming from soundhorse that they assure me is from the new stock that is made on the new teflon molds. I've got a "hold" in place on customer installs untill I can get a string of successfull 6 week runs on and XM15 and XM16 (Xperimental Mare) who both reside at my place and do new product testing for me.

Thanks for clarifying how to use the copper rivits on the treaded plate on the phone yesterday. I'm enthused about the peened area being recessed below the tred urethane and think it should work well. I've got a milling bit for the drill press that I use to remove urethane for drilling and tapping for studs in series II treaded plates that will expose the aluminum for peening.

George Spear
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".....and I said to the horse: Trust no man in whose eyes you do not see yourself reflected as an equal."
Don Vincenzo Giobbe
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"What people do not appreciate is that every time a horse submits to...

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RE:Sigafoos Series II Cuff Failure 07 Aug 2008 21:23 #5

reillyshoe OFFLINE Master Posts: 2690 Thank you received: 7 Karma: 4	For clarification of George's comments, the company licensed to manufacture the Sigafoos shoes suggests riveting all series II shoes with a date before April 2008. Shoes after this date (I am told) do not require riveting.
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RE:Sigafoos Series II Cuff Failure 08 Aug 2008 02:25 #6

Dances with Hooves OFFLINE Master Posts: 1345 Thank you received: 5 Karma: 3	Just got a new plate in and its dated 5/08 so I should be good on the next one.
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