What are your thoughts about those Toe-Clips??

Jake Whitman wrote:jake i like toe clips when i shoe my draft i have found that if i don't use them she will shear the nail when she gets to play in the field.bryan e.

Bryan , do you dress the dorsal - wall , before you fit them , What do you do when you fit them , Burn them , in? Cut ,them in? Nice to hear from you, Hope the fires out there aren't close. Jake

Do you put a radius , to match the curve ,of the toe, Before you burn them in?? Nice to hear that someone-else uses toe clips.

I think that a person can toe -clip most horses, and still achieve NB paramiters, What do you all think??? Jaye , any advice??

Jake Whitman wrote:


You can but it is difficult at best to achive proper fit according to the NB guidelines with the present shoe selection. That is why Gene and I are at work on a new shoe the Center Fit TC. Here is a photo of the prototype that I just sent to the manufacturer in Asia to make the molds for the inital production run.

We are just responding to market demands. With the new influence of the WCB it is clear that many farriers will be switching from side clips to toe clips and we wish to be able to compete in this market space. The unclipped and the side clipped center fit shoes will continue to be available but will be joined by the TC model in the product line up.

Jake Whitman wrote:

Good morning Jake, I was thinking about this very thing the other. Horses are prone to distortion up here, too much good hay, feed and a lot of moisture. Most of the time I can keep the feet in shape by keeping the flares dressed back and slightly setting the shoe back to get good breakover. The problem here is you need to be thinking 6 weeks down the road and planning for the seasonal changes the changes in enviroment. If over dress these feet especially trying to get the toe back and burn a toe clip in, your going to be in trouble with most horses in my area.

George isn't the point of the clip abit too sharp?

George, is that an actual prototype ?

Jake,
Let me ask you this question. Do you ever have feet sorted out to where you can just rim them? You grow enough vertical depth to where you nip off the hoof wall and clean up the hoof wall from the bottom and then you reset or put on a new shoe? The inside like the sole, bars, and frog are a wash and they need to be left alone. When an animal gows vertical depth and flares little or none are you on easy street? When a vet dosen't know the home address of your client is that a good deal. When your owners don't have any imput on your shoeing is that good. That is where we all want to head----isn't it?

Just wondering myself

Craig Trnka

Jake Whitman wrote:
Some horses you can, and they do fine with them..... some horses you cant and they do fine without them....... It is just that simple:)

Craig, How high is Up ?

George, can that substitue as frog support on hooves that don't need it to be extended out quite so far ?
Can you turn it upside down and use it as a grab on ice ?

Does it come in different colors ?

Phil; Same conditions and feed in Vt. as in Maine.
I know a number of shoer's who burn in clips with no ill efects.
Dressing the wall shouldn't cause a bad situation unless you over dress and remove to much protective wall, where as moisture escapes.

Jake, ever heard the song; i won't go fishing with you Jake, But I'll go chasing women ?

my 2 cents worth

I shoe draft horses in Alaska where the conditions in six months are about 90" of rain. (Dry season) The horses are used hard everyday pulling trolleys loaded with 20-28 tourists. All shoes are toe clipped out of necessity. These Belgians will shear the nails off it were not for the clips. I notch with my rasp and knife or half-rounds and then burn the shoe on making sure I get a tight fit on the clip, as well as a nice seat to the foot.

It works well for these horses. In my regular practice. I will notch and burn or just burn. "It depends" on the quality of the foot that I am applying the clips to.

Tony

Craig Trnka wrote:Man, You , COMPLETLEY, Lost me , on that One, You have to talk pre-school to me , for me to understand. Thanks bro.

George_Spear wrote:KRICKEY, man, What the hell is that??? Good luck with that. You might want to relieve the sole , on the backside of the toe clip, Do you set ALL of your shoes that far back ,from the dorsal wall??