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TOPIC: PLR and Centre Fit

RE:PLR and Centre Fit 22 Jun 2008 02:46 #61

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Its not supposed to, in this case. If it did, it would not work the way it was intended.

Please go on. How's it supposed to work?
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RE:PLR and Centre Fit 22 Jun 2008 02:51 #62

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To answer the above post and Jayes: First, I dont know what you are getting at except the obvious which is that that the *foot* (not the shoe) is small for this horse. The foot is indeed small for this horse, it has been for a great long while (years) and will remain small...SEVERE RINGBONE. OLD HORSE. I do not want it any wider or larger.

But that said, to answer your question, I would estimate his weight (a little thin at he moment) at about 1250 to 1300.
Buit his size did not and does not matter to me, because I shoe for *that foot's* needed mechanics to try to achieve some level of comfort in THIS crippled horse.
My mechanical goal was to reduce as much movement and leverage as possible on the DIP joint and collateral ligaments as the horse locomotes, which this shoeing accomplishes nicely. In the past he has also been on clogs and also did well in those)

In THIS CASE, the smaller the ground surface of the shoe, the better.
I would have just put a tennis ball on the bottom of his foot if I thought it would help more. So if the size is what you are getting at, I hope it answers your question.
If not, then what IS the point? .
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RE:PLR and Centre Fit 22 Jun 2008 02:54 #63

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OH and PS, Eric, the shoe is centered around the coffin joint. The hoof capsule is *distorted* , not centered around the joint, hence the longer toe on the foot than what is on the capsule. Don't you ever put the shoe "where the foot is supposed to be? "
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RE:PLR and Centre Fit 22 Jun 2008 02:58 #64

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calshoer wrote:
To answer the above post and Jayes: First, I dont know what you are getting at except the obvious which is that that the *foot* (not the shoe) is small for this horse. The foot is indeed small for this horse, it has been for a great long while (years) and will remain small...SEVERE RINGBONE. OLD HORSE. I do not want it any wider or larger.

But that said, to answer your question, I would estimate his weight (a little thin at he moment) at about 1250 to 1300.
Buit his size did not and does not matter to me, because I shoe for *that foot's* needed mechanics to try to achieve some level of comfort in THIS crippled horse.
My mechanical goal was to reduce as much movement and leverage as possible on the DIP joint and collateral ligaments as the horse locomotes, which this shoeing accomplishes nicely. In the past he has also been on clogs and also did well in those)

In THIS CASE, the smaller the ground surface of the shoe, the better.
I would have just put a tennis ball on the bottom of his foot if I thought it would help more. So if the size is what you are getting at, I hope it answers your question.
If not, then what IS the point? .

No alterable slam intended just curious:D
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RE:PLR and Centre Fit 22 Jun 2008 02:59 #65

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In THIS CASE, the smaller the ground surface of the shoe, the better.
I would have just put a tennis ball on the bottom of his foot if I thought it would help more. So if the size is what you are getting at, I hope it answers your question.
If not, then what IS the point? .

Good evening Patty! I hope your having a fabulous Saturday evening.

My point is the same as always. The shoe mimics the undressed hoof. The shoe is much wider and rounder through the toe and toe quarters than need be. Also, you being good at making handmade shoes could've fashioned a shoe which would have reduced leverage where he wants to breakover much more than what you did!

Thank You for your time. I'm sorry to hear your rocking chair broke!
Eric
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RE:PLR and Centre Fit 22 Jun 2008 03:01 #66

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OH and PS, Eric, the shoe is centered around the coffin joint. The hoof capsule is *distorted* , not centered around the joint, hence the longer toe on the foot than what is on the capsule. Don't you ever put the shoe "where the foot is supposed to be? "

Your preaching to the choir! Just don't like your shape!

thank you and good night.
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RE:PLR and Centre Fit 22 Jun 2008 03:10 #67

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Eric Russell wrote:
Good evening Nick! Hope you get plenty of fishing in this summer!

Hows the humidity and horseflies in CO?

Thank You
Eric

Thought this was about the PLR and Centre Fit shoes? I don't live in CO but when I've gone, in Sept. there are no horse flys or humidity.
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RE:PLR and Centre Fit 22 Jun 2008 03:16 #68

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Thought this was about the PLR and Centre Fit shoes? I don't live in CO but when I've gone, in Sept. there are no horse flys or humidity.

Nick my nofriend!

I don't have time to mention every little thing to you as to why feet break up. I sometimes forget that horses aren't stomping at flies all day long everywhere. I know you come to NJ. You can nail some shoes on one of my horses to see how they fare in the summer. I doubt they'd hold up. Let's make that a plr to stay on topic!

Thank you Eric.
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RE:PLR and Centre Fit 22 Jun 2008 03:18 #69

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Thought this was about the PLR and Centre Fit shoes? I don't live in CO but when I've gone, in Sept. there are no horse flys or humidity.

Oh! And I'm very familiar with the centre fits. What are the good points? I can't think of any off the top of my head.
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RE:PLR and Centre Fit 22 Jun 2008 03:25 #70

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The shoe is much wider and rounder through the toe and toe quarters
No it isn't.The toe of the foot is pathologically narrow and elongated ,and the shoe is actually set a bit INSIDE the toe quarters, *narrower* than the foot at that point.
Just don't like your shape!
If you do not like the shape of the PLR or the centre fit, then please,do everyone a favor and do NOT under any circumstances ever apply a PLR or a centre fit. It would be very sad for me to see them mis-used. :rolleyes:
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RE:PLR and Centre Fit 22 Jun 2008 03:35 #71

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Oh! And I'm very familiar with the centre fits. What are the good points? I can't think of any off the top of my head.

Why do you use them then?
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RE:PLR and Centre Fit 22 Jun 2008 14:28 #72

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Heres the first pair of CentreFits I did the other day. Also first time ever doing this horse who was a good 3/4 inch higher on the medial side, his bulbs were starting to be uneven. Patty do you mind commenting on this?
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RE:PLR and Centre Fit 22 Jun 2008 15:39 #73

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Overall, from this one view it looks like a very good fit.
However You need to clean up the sole in the rear of the foot more , exfoliate the obviously loose cracked sole material, and the frog apex (just the very tip) down to the waxy sole junction. This will give you more accurate references to balance.
With NB in rocky country it is considered OK to leave some sole crusty dead sole over the anterior sole area to protect P3, but still very important to really clean up the sole in the quarters at the sole /wall juntion, back into seat of the corn and bar area, and over the toe corners at the sole wall junction , in order to accurately find ML balance.
Bet it didnt take much shaping to fit , did it? ;)
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RE:PLR and Centre Fit 22 Jun 2008 23:31 #74

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Thanks Patty. No it didn't take much shaping at all. I turned the heels in a scooch but thats it.
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RE:PLR and Centre Fit 21 Jul 2008 17:58 #75

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I really like the PLR's and recently started using them on a few. This is one from last week. I'm new at this pic posting, hopefully it comes up.:o

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