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Amsterdam Farrier supply clinic/contest 07 Jun 2005 01:00 #1

I would like to go, but I called the contact number and it was disconnected. I also emailed the contact and have not received a response. Does anyone have another number, or have the intinerary, shoe list, hotel contacts etc for this contest?
Thanks
Jason Maki
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RE:Amsterdam Farrier supply clinic/contest 07 Jun 2005 01:16 #2


Sorry about the grubby fingerprints and the size. ;)

There will be a few of us coming down from New England.
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RE:Amsterdam Farrier supply clinic/contest 07 Jun 2005 01:45 #3

Thanks Roy!
Not to flaunt my ignorance ( which I will do now!) but what is a navicular releif shoe? Is it a wedge with a rocker built from 5/8 cube, or is there a curveball in a fastball count in there? Is a lateral support shoe the massed lateral heal, tapered medial branch punched course to the lateral for full fit?
Got pictures? :D
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RE:Amsterdam Farrier supply clinic/contest 07 Jun 2005 02:20 #4

The navicular shoe is just a front spavin shoe. Mark about 2 1/4” from each end, forge heels then set down everything in between.the marks. It should end up being about 11 ½” overall. After you’ve forged the section it’s just a fullered front shoe with a rocker toe. (If it's still not clear let me know and I'll try and crack one out and take a picture.)

I think they meant to say “fullered heel to heel” on the lateral extension. :confused:

Too bad you don't live closer. We allready had one practice and might do another the last weekend in june.
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RE:Amsterdam Farrier supply clinic/contest 07 Jun 2005 02:37 #5

I think I got you Roy. Set it down 2 1/4 in from both ends, forge it out to 5/16 X 3/4. fuller, rocker. Simple enough to type! I'll forge one out on Wednesday and send you a pic to see if I understand.
I really do not know what a "lateral support shoe" is...is what was rambling about. I guess I'll just ask: What the heck is a lateral support shoe, widened lateral heel punched to be fit full or something else?
I appreciate your input. I can also look through the big book in my shop for pics.

Thanks again.
Jason
PS-- I would love to have a practice. If you can give me a date I "have anvil, will travel" :D
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RE:Amsterdam Farrier supply clinic/contest 08 Jun 2005 00:50 #6

I think the lateral support shoe would just have a heel bumped up(wider not taller) and boxed off from the quarter back. If you look in the Professional Farrier at the pictures of the convention shoes there is a lateral support hind in the Mustad shoes. I think it's the same shoe minus the concave inner web.

Remember when you flip it over and look at the foot surface you should see a hind foot plus the Boxed off extention. Good shoe really, if you make them in pairs you should be able to find horses to nail them on especialy if you shoe any hunters. I hate to waste barstock. ;)

You're welcome to come up anytime but I'm in Connecticut probably 12hrs. or so from you.
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RE:Amsterdam Farrier supply clinic/contest 08 Jun 2005 01:48 #7

Roy,
I was fairly certain thats what it was, I just was not sure. Would you offset a 1/2 or 3/4 and bump then flatten to 1 X 5/16? That would seem to make sense. I have a few of the hunter hinds from the 2000or 2001 convention in my garage I can "copy". My teacher won that class that year ( He then quit the team and quit forging---leaving me with big gaps in my contest shoe knowledge!) I appreciate the info! I'll attempt a navicular shoe tommorrow. I had a T-ball game to attend tonight.
Thanks again,
Jason Maki

Ps Is the lateral shoe fullered 3/4 or heel to heel? I'm not sure what fullered to the heel means!
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RE:Amsterdam Farrier supply clinic/contest 08 Jun 2005 03:38 #8

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Fullered to the heel means ,like a rim shoe? Or at least that's what my old teacher told us? God rest his soul! Best, Gary
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RE:Amsterdam Farrier supply clinic/contest 09 Jun 2005 01:50 #9

I think they meant heel to heel? Don't worry I'm sure there will be specimen shoes to look at. Just be ready for anything and you'll be OK. :D
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RE:Amsterdam Farrier supply clinic/contest 09 Jun 2005 12:38 #10

Roy,
So this contest is just like "real life!".
Jason
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RE:Amsterdam Farrier supply clinic/contest 14 Jun 2005 07:25 #11

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Im a bit late on this one. I go down to Amsterdam farrier supply a few times a month. Im up in massachusetts, and we run down to New Holland a lot. The place is ran by some nice amish folks.. They still answer the phone though! I picked up a nice forge w/ an electric blower for 15 bucks.. they dont like that electric stuff. Anyone go to this clinic?

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RE:Amsterdam Farrier supply clinic/contest 11 Jul 2005 02:07 #12

You guys missed a great clinic.

This is the first time I've met Bob Marshall. I can't tell you how impressed I am with him. He's not just a great farrier but a good teacher too. Which seems to be a rare combination. I plan on going out to his shop to learn some more form him.


The contest on Saturday.


Part of the shoe pile. Bob was kind enough to stick around after the contest and go through them. He's a straight talker and doesn’t sugar coat things but he keeps his critique positive and helpful.
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RE:Amsterdam Farrier supply clinic/contest 13 Nov 2005 16:09 #13

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Hi Roy
if get any shot of Bobs work
love to see it
Cheers.
John
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RE:Amsterdam Farrier supply clinic/contest 15 Nov 2005 01:49 #14

Hi John,

There's a couple of shots on the "golden mean" thread. I might have some more soon. I'm going out to his place in December.
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RE:Amsterdam Farrier supply clinic/contest 15 Nov 2005 02:30 #15

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Roy a weekend at Bobs is a great learning time and he makes good tea too.Scott
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