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RE:Study Questions 15 Aug 2006 04:05 #16

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Well, I have been studying form and funtion for a while. I understand the need for proper alignment, the horny/corium/cushion/frog parts of the foot and how they are attached. I understand (basicly)the placement and function of the major tendons and ligaments. I need to get ALL of my soft tissue anatomy, and get it down pat.

In my tour I was informed by Kelly that we would have 2 disections. I'm sure at least the first will be guided. I'm going to try to buy another leg or two from them, to do while I'm there.
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RE:Study Questions 15 Aug 2006 04:53 #17

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Patty,
Can you make some good recomendations to me on material you use? Always open minded.
Last year the classs text was Simon Curtis's "Farriery, Foal to Racehorse" (recomended by someone else) but it was not complete enough for the money the students spent, so this year it is going to be his other one, "Remedial Farriery".
Most of my class materials was my own personal text, pictures and so on , all on powerpoints and handouts. I spent over 200 hours putting them together.
I also used excerpts from Chris Pollitts book, "The Color Atlas of the horses foot" .
I use anatomy mostly from "Adams lameness in Horses" . I used two videos of Jean Marie Denoix lecturing at the AFA on distal limb and hock lameness.
I also used one of his that I borrowed that is a limb dissection where he discusses in detail tendon ,ligament and joint biomechanics. Its not available to buy though, in the US. And I could only borrow it.
I use the original little Natural balance handbook "New Hope For Soundness". I use the Natural Balance / EDSS videos.
(and all my students went and bought their own copies for review ,too )
I use excerpts from Gene Ovniceks Powerpoint lectures ,with his permission.
I used "the Glass Horse" software (but was dissapointed in it .It is not very detailed at all . I went into far deeper anatomy from the books. )
I used several different forging videos, but what forging the class had time for we basically did hands-on. Thats how to learn forging best anyway.
I did use Butlers video on basic shoeing because he shows getting inder the horse, and good nailing and clinching ,nice and close up.
I also showed the class a video that was passed on to me from prior class years, made by the AFA in which a team of farriers demonstrated various shoe modifications.... it was actually really good.
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RE:Study Questions 15 Aug 2006 22:12 #18

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Donnie

Who's helping you? I hired one that just got out of shoeing school in May. He has had an eye opening experience. I think he is going to make though.
Jeff Holder

Some people are like Slinky’s, pretty much useless but make you smile when you push them down the stairs.
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RE:Study Questions 16 Aug 2006 01:41 #19

I think these three books are worth every penny. Adam's lameness in horses. Dr. Rooney's book and Chris Cregory's book Better Basics, Better Horseshoeing it has good info on how to develop forgeing skills. The Natural Balance DVD's are great.

As others have said, you priority will be getting into shape. Also learning the basics. The basics are very important.
Phil Armitage, CF
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"Anyone who proposes to do good must not expect people to roll stones out of his way, but must accept his lot calmly if they even roll a few more upon it." Albert Schweitzer
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RE:Study Questions 16 Aug 2006 03:03 #20

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Thanks for the info Patty,
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What part of "NO" don't you understand!!

Caution: Watch for hoof in mouth disease!!!
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RE:Study Questions 16 Aug 2006 09:54 #21

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A beautiful hardbound edition of :A Handbook of Horseshoeing" by Dollar and Wheatley is available online at Centuar Forge. Since Butler's books reference this book you may want to go straight to the source. Same goes for Scot Sipson's "Mechanics of Horseshoeing Simplified." Since trhese books cover the topics they discuss better than Butler does by reference, you might find that you can build a nice library for less than the cost of P3.

I know one horseshoeing school instructor who says he would rather use PII instead of P3 for a text book. However PII is out of print and the publisher refuses to sell any more copies of it. Some of the metarial in P3 is confusing and some of it is just plain bad physics. As an anatomy reference for studying, P3 is useless. The anatomy is spread out through the book. So as a reference the book is hard to use because it jumps all over the place. As a step by step teaching guide neither PII or P3 follow a sequence that makes any sense to me. I own both versions and both are personally signed by Doug Butler. I also have one of his tapes on draft horse shoeing - now I know why he wears a hearing aid. :)

Adams Lameness in Horses 5th edition is really awesome as a general anatomy reference. I shopped this book online and purchased it new from Walmart.com for less than $100 including shipping. I wonder if my copy was assembled by Chinese slave labor. :)
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RE:Study Questions 16 Aug 2006 11:44 #22

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A beautiful hardbound edition of :A Handbook of Horseshoeing" by Dollar and Wheatley is available online at Centuar Forge. Since Butler's books reference this book you may want to go straight to the source. Same goes for Scot Sipson's "Mechanics of Horseshoeing Simplified."

Thanks.I will look for these...
Adams Lameness in Horses 5th edition is really awesome as a general anatomy reference. I shopped this book online and purchased it new from Walmart.com for less than $100 including shipping. I wonder if my copy was assembled by Chinese slave labor.

...and this. Oh, also, HA. HA. HA. It probably was.:p
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RE:Study Questions 17 Aug 2006 01:38 #23

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Bloomer

My P3 is signed by both Butlers. I should put it up and buy another.
Jeff Holder

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RE:Study Questions 17 Aug 2006 01:47 #24

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J.H. shoeing wrote:
Bloomer

My P3 is signed by both Butlers. I should put up and buy another.
Yep, all my Rooney literature is signed, copies were bought to study from.
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RE:Study Questions 17 Aug 2006 02:45 #25

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Jaye Perry in gray

Yep, all my Rooney literature is signed, copies were bought to study from.

I built my youngest girl a nice illustrated firescreen. She looked it up and down and all over and said, "Where'd you sign it?"

I told her I hadn't signed it.

She said, "Pop you need to go to signing your stuff. After you kick the bucket, an authentic Stovall might be worth something."

I didn't shatter her illusions, I just took it back to the shop and signed it. :)
Tom Stovall, CJF
"The only foolish question is the one left unasked."
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RE:Study Questions 17 Aug 2006 03:12 #26

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Hopefully when we get the 2nd rent house paid off we can breathe enough to buy a place so I can get my Stovall original at the entrance. Signed of course.
Jeff Holder

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RE:Study Questions 17 Aug 2006 03:24 #27

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I knew you would have some really cool stuff to look at while I was there.
Jeff Holder

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RE:Study Questions 17 Aug 2006 10:24 #28

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J.H. shoeing wrote:
Bloomer

My P3 is signed by both Butlers. I should put it up and buy another.
So is mine. At the '04 AFA convention I talked to Jacob Butler about the pending book and the section(s) on anatomy. I asked him if the new book would use a consistent naming convention instead of switching back and forth between common names and medical names. I must have misunderstood his reply because the naming conventions are just as inconsistent as the old book. So he must have meant that they would be consistent in their inconsistency.

The physics and geometry in P3 are presented in a very analytical fashion. If you read those sections and you already know the physics and geometry of the horse it’s like reading a really long punch line to a bad joke. Perhaps the Butlers should have taken a course in basic vector mechanics from Dr. Rooney. The reference to the center of gravity of the limb and the center of gravity of the hoof just makes my teeth itch. What’s worse is that they refer incorrectly to Duckett’s anatomical references, but that’s ok because so do a lot of other people.

I really like the Doug and Jacob Butler and I would not be so critical of their work if it was not for the fact that most farrier trade schools have adopted it. The thought that the next generation of wannabe farriers will be taught bad mechanics is a bit of a downer.
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RE:Study Questions 24 Aug 2006 02:28 #29

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Sarah,


Another really good thing to have which is real cheap real good is the army manual. It was an old military TM manual printed by the war department. In it's civilian version its called simply "The Horseshoer". Is informative and interesting.

The name of this book is "The Cavalry Horseshoer's Technical Manual 2-220" printed by the War Department March 11. 1941.

I'm currently reading the book and purchesed it used from AMAZON.COM. Good read so far!

Bob
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