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TOPIC: Riding With Me!!!!!!!!!!

RE:Riding With Me!!!!!!!!!! 14 Aug 2006 00:58 #61

Well Dave,
I do appreciate your offer of a place and horses. If its ok with Jaye its ok with me.

I need to OK it with the wife and in-laws but if it's in the winter time I see no reason why it wouldn't work.
As I said I wasn't as much interested in the speed as I was in making it a contest of endurance.

Speed is a key factor in determining who did the most isn't it? The object is to see how many you can do before you poop out isn't it? So if you take your time say 1 horse every 2 hours, we'll all be shoeing horses for 2 days.
I thought that fair because if it were for lame horses he would have an edge.

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If it were for race horses I think I might have an edge.

How would that be judged? Would you shoe one and Jaye shoe one and then match race them? I don't think this category could be fairly judged.

Either way we probably couldn't get any of those type horses to do a deal like this on anyway.

Probably not.
So, If you dont think something like this would work, what might you suggest?

I think you could pull something like this off, however I think you'll have to give up on the fund raising aspect, at least having owners pay for the services.

First we'll start with a forging exercise. Each will start with the same size and make of keg shoe. Who can draw the tallest functional clip.

Next, Eagle Eye, you have 15 seconds to look at a foot. Everyone gets a different foot. Then you go back shape a keg shoe. Three farriers will look at the shoe and determine if it is safe to nail on. If it is the shoe is to be nailed on and finished. Then the job will be judged by the judges or by all in attendance. Majority rules.

Next we will shoe one horse, again everyone has their own horse to shoe. No time limit, however points will be awarded for finishing first. All shoes are to be shaped and fit hot. Contestants will have the option of watching the horse trot before shoeing to determine what shoes or placement of shoes are appropriate, again the judges will take this into account when shoeing begins.
When the horses have been shod, each contestant will grade the others work.

Next, we will find some limbs, and place stickers on bones, tendons, ligaments and such. Each will have to be identified correctly.

Finally, we will find to "beginers". People with very little experience shoeing. Each of you will be tasked to coach them through shoeing two feet. You are not allowed to touch the tools, or the foot. The shoes are to be shaped hot and fit hot. All work is to be done by the newbie. All you can do is talk to your helper.

I'll think of some other things but those would be fun.

Dave

I'm flexible about what we do as long as there are no entry fees and no personal profit from the money raised.
George
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RE:Riding With Me!!!!!!!!!! 14 Aug 2006 01:07 #62

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Dave,
All that stuff sounds pretty cool especially the part with the working with beginners. Souds like you've done stuff like this before.

The shoeing of the horse part, is that done with kegs or handmades?

Also, I use coal vast majority of the time. Will that be permitted at this place you have in mind?
George
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RE:Riding With Me!!!!!!!!!! 14 Aug 2006 01:28 #63

Dave,
All that stuff sounds pretty cool especially the part with the working with beginners. Souds like you've done stuff like this before.

Never done stuff like this, but have thought about our chapter holding a contest like this, not your ordinary contest, but fun stuff that is usefull everyday.
The shoeing of the horse part, is that done with kegs or handmades?

Whatever you guys want to do. If I'm in this I'd rather use keg shoes, but that's cause I'm lazy, and that's what I use everyday. I'd like to keep this as close to everyday shoeing as possible. Realizing that you and Jaye shoe different types of horses more often than not makes this more like what I do everyday, no race horses, and not near as much lameness as Jaye.
Also, I use coal vast majority of the time. Will that be permitted at this place you have in mind?
George

We'll do it at my house, so I don't care what you use, just don't be surprised if no one wants to park next to your rig.

Dave
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RE:Riding With Me!!!!!!!!!! 14 Aug 2006 01:30 #64

I can understand no entry fee's as people will be traveling, but I will be profiting from this cause I'm still gonna charge my inlaw's for the trim. :cool:

Dave
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RE:Riding With Me!!!!!!!!!! 14 Aug 2006 01:32 #65

I think each contestant should bring something to auction off. If you want to make something great, if you want to buy something, fine and if you just have something laying around that you don't use perfect. But if you want to donate something to someone, I think this is how the money should be raised.

Dave
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RE:Riding With Me!!!!!!!!!! 14 Aug 2006 03:33 #66

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Rancho JD wrote:
start taking your 20 a day pills now and by god come contest time you all should be slicked up real nice, hell why not throw in a bronco per each with no tranqs just before dark see who finishes the day strongest retaining the most hide

Ok I say we add one more degree of difficulty into the mix. Bring it down this way in the middle of the summer NO shade, no fans.

Bryan
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RE:Riding With Me!!!!!!!!!! 16 Aug 2006 02:26 #67

Bryan McElwee wrote:
Ok I say we add one more degree of difficulty into the mix. Bring it down this way in the middle of the summer NO shade, no fans.

Bryan

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RE:Riding With Me!!!!!!!!!! 16 Aug 2006 03:06 #68

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Dave Purves wrote:
Never done stuff like this, but have thought about our chapter holding a contest like this, not your ordinary contest, but fun stuff that is usefull everyday.
.............................Dave

Work out the particulars, date(s). I'll show up to do my stated affair.
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RE:Riding With Me!!!!!!!!!! 16 Aug 2006 04:10 #69

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Me too,
Best time for me would be around Jan or Feb.
George
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RE:Riding With Me!!!!!!!!!! 16 Aug 2006 20:16 #70

How did I get roped into organizing and setting this whole thing up?

Dave
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RE:Riding With Me!!!!!!!!!! 16 Aug 2006 21:08 #71

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Is that my fault Dave, for suggesting your place? Sorry :o It just seemed strategically sound. Plus you have your inlaws :D. George is away for awhile, but I thought he was the organizer. I would leave it to him, since it is his idea. I like your idea for involving students though...

Since George wants it to be charitable, maybe the funds could be used to set up a match service(middle man) for farriers willing to take apprenctices, and those looking for masters. It could be all online, and farriers could make thier requirements known in advance, apprencitces could find someone near to them.
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RE:Riding With Me!!!!!!!!!! 16 Aug 2006 21:25 #72

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I'm with Jaye. He asked a question to be answered by George and now they have settled for a p i s s i n ' contest? Seems a simple answer would have been easier? Just wondering? Gary
"As I see it, winners get the money - while losers talk of "individual goals" and similar stuff." Tom Stovall
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RE:Riding With Me!!!!!!!!!! 02 Sep 2006 22:26 #73

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Dave Purves wrote:
How did I get roped into organizing and setting this whole thing up?

Dave
Because you have enough hides around that need a good farrier!:D

Waiting for conformation on a date or dates. End of December and end of January is out. First of Febu-ugly is out. Scheduled for Florida.

Additional class for the event- "Boy George" has to use my tools and I have to use his. All the tools; hammers, knives and the such. No favorite implements.
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RE:Riding With Me!!!!!!!!!! 02 Sep 2006 23:30 #74

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Sure thing Jaye,
Sounds like fun. I'll even let you wear my shirt if you like.
By the way is this thing black tie or white?
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RE:Riding With Me!!!!!!!!!! 03 Sep 2006 15:22 #75

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In the interest of fairness this should be run as a double blind contest.

1. Pick 4 horses.
2. Pick 3 judges.
3. Judges inspect all horses and take notes about confirmation and hoof quality.
4. Judges leave the premisis and go hang out in a bar somewhere close by.
5. Contestants draw straws to determine which tow horses they will shoe.
6. Contestants shoe two horses each to the best of their ability.
7. Designated driver brings judges back to the premisis.
8. Judges inspect shod horses without knowing which horses were shod by whom.
9. Judges make decision (majority rules) on which two horses were the best shod based on before and after condition.

The judges will not know who shod which horses - so they will be making their decision blind. Having spent the live portion of the contest drinking in a bar, the judges will be blinded by alcohol - thus a double blind contest. :)
Tom Bloomer
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Here's the deal. I'm trying to keep it simple.
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