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THE NEW AFA Certified written 16 Jan 2005 16:23 #1

OK I was all confident about passing the last leg of my certified friday afternoon but much to my surprise the test is nothing like the study guide I had that thing memorized and it did me no good. :( So I am asking for anyother ideas that you all might have to get past this test. I am reading and re-reading the principals of horseshoeing 2 and 3. I will gladly take any advice.
thanks Brooke
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RE:THE NEW AFA Certified written 16 Jan 2005 17:54 #2

Unfortunatly the study guide put out by Bloombach, is not necessarily a good thing to memorize before you take the test. Many of the questions are the same but worded differently and if you're not careful you will come up with the wrong answer. I did the same thing and it almost cost me to fail also, but I went back through and re-read the questions and changed a few answers. In fact when I went over the test with the examiner he knew I had studied Bloombachs study guide because of the questions I did get wrong. The study guide is not on the list of recommended reading material for the test. With that said, now that you know what to expect, read principals of horseshoeing 2, I haven't seen 3 yet so I don't know but imagine it is just as good if not better. Use the study guide but don't memorize it cause when you read a question on the test that sounds like the study guide you tend to answer without thinking about the question. Study hard and don't get too frustrated there are alot of people that taket he test and fail, the ones that don't give up are the ones that have passed.
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RE:THE NEW AFA Certified written 16 Jan 2005 19:41 #3

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Brooke

I am going to test this next weekend and was wondering about the written test. I have been using the study guide also. I have a week left to hit some things that I might need to look over more carefully. And I set aside 2 hours every day this week to work on the material. So hook me up with what I need to study more closely.

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RE:THE NEW AFA Certified written 16 Jan 2005 22:03 #4

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Dave Purves wrote:
The study guide is not on the list of recommended reading material for the test.

I think it is on the list...unless the list is refering to some other study guide.
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RE:THE NEW AFA Certified written 16 Jan 2005 22:26 #5

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Copied Straight out of the AFA Certifiction Study Guide


AFA STUDY GUIDE BOOK LIST
The following list of books are a few that would be useful for studying
for the AFA Certification Exams. There are others that are quite good but are
not included in this list, and it should be encouraged that you study from as
many as possible. It is impossible that you can study too much for these exams.
Principles of Horseshoeing II (Butler)
Elements of Farrier Science (Canfield)
Limbs of the Equine (Amos)
A Textbook of Horseshoeing (Lungwitz)
Adams--Lameness in Horses (Staskank)
Lameness in Horses (Adams)
These books are available at several farrier supply stores that carry extensive
libraries for farriers.
For a study guide with diagrams contact the American Farrier’s Association
at the address listed on the back of this booklet.


Gary
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RE:THE NEW AFA Certified written 17 Jan 2005 04:02 #6

The 15 true and false is what everyone should watch out for the matching is common sense, and good knowledge of what shoes to apply to specific needs. I realize that the studyguide is not a way to study for the test and yes it's not listed anymore as a recomended use for studing for the test my point is just by reading those listed books wasn't much help when it came down to the wording of the questions.
I was not the only one who used the "study guide" and failed. There has to be a way a bunch of us who remember the questions can write them down and change them so there not exact but create a new type of study guide.
My next chance is in Chattanooga if anyone has any other ideas pass them on. Thanks Brooke :D
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RE:THE NEW AFA Certified written 17 Jan 2005 07:08 #7

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I took the test last summer and failed by one question. I was woried about the practical but did fine with that.
Planing to take the writen agin in a week or two.
Here's where I'll open my big mouth, and stick my neck out. I think they sorta want us to know this stuff from experence.
I supose a blind parapalegic could study enough to pass with a perfect score.
The BWFA let me become a CJF after three mounths of school, to make them and me look good, but I sure didn't know Farriery.
A friend passed the CF test then three weeks later passed the CJF. He spent the previous twenty five or so years practicing intensly though. So it was a peice of cake (easy for me to say). I was happy for him and admire him, but those who know him aren't surprised he could do it.
I haven't had time to study but I'll give it a go anyway.
Wish me memory!
Bill

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I don't give a damn for a man who can only spell a word one way. Mark Twain
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RE:THE NEW AFA Certified written 17 Jan 2005 10:21 #8

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I've taken a lot of tests and it's an art in itself.

When I went back to school I was 27 and had been away from school for a long time. I thought I was was well prepared for my first midterm and knew the material inside and out. I failed the test anyway...You know? Do a problem three times and get three different answers? By the time I was finished I was a basket case and I doubt I could have told you my address.

So...I set myself to learning to take tests. I guess it's different for every one but, in my experience, it's hard to take a test unless you know what to expect from the author of the test. After a semester with a proff you know by the way he teaches and what he emphisizes what he wants on the tests...not just correct answers but THE ANSWER HE WANTS (and how he asks) and they are not always the same thing. There is just a world full of questions with more than one answer and I don't care how well you know a subject your grade will likely be lower for not knowing the author of the test for all but the most direct and simple questions.

I also used to get rattled by all those turning in their test when I was only half way through...until, of course, I found out that they usually aren't those with the highest grades. I learned to use the time I had...all of it. If I can do the test twice good. If I have time to do it three times...better.

Tests are as much or more a test of ones skill at taking tests as they are ones knowledge of a subject.

That's not meant to be a dig at any one. It's just one of those little "pain in the butt" facts of life.
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RE:THE NEW AFA Certified written 17 Jan 2005 23:42 #9

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Thanks Brooke

That is the kind of info I was looking for.

Jeff
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RE:THE NEW AFA Certified written 18 Jan 2005 16:38 #10

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I don't think the idea is to memorze the material, but to comprehend it so that you can recall the information in a pratical setting. I'm sure esperience plays a big part in it to.

I have a saying that I call, Gary's rule number one, "Never memorize anything you can look up in a book!"

My thinking behind this is if you are familar enough with the material you will be able to find it when needed, and that material you use on a daily basis will become second nature and you won't have to look it up.

This has usually helped me in recalling information I may need on a test. Especally when it comes to pratical type questions.


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RE:THE NEW AFA Certified written 21 Jan 2005 01:55 #11

Blombachs guide will help you only if you fully understand why the answers are what they are. ie; so know the stay appartus in its entirety, that is the whole point of the exam. that one has a working knowledge of biomechanics, anatomy and shoe application. i hope for the industy's sake that you cant go out and just memorize a test and pass it. that defeats the whole intention of the certifcation process, and for that matter the function of these trade associations. Be Safe Mo
"just because weve done it that way fo r so long, doesnt necessarily make it right"
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RE:THE NEW AFA Certified written 21 Jan 2005 20:02 #12

i hope for the industy's sake that you cant go out and just memorize a test and pass it. that defeats the whole intention of the certifcation process, and for that matter the function of these trade associations.

By Memorize I ment I put a hell of a lot of effort into Knowing my stuff.That study giude is out dated and the test has changed! I am more boggeled by the true and false then anything.
As for the industry's sake I am not half assing my job I am taking this test to make my self better at what I do and then some!
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RE:THE NEW AFA Certified written 22 Jan 2005 02:49 #13

Quit whinning and send it back to John he has a money back gaurantee :eek:
And im sure you'll do well the next time now that you know what to expect i passed, except for the shoe board my square toe was not defined enough on the inside of the shoe, i looked at the examiner like he was on crack(what does the inside of the shoe have to do with the purpose of a square toe?) Bob Menker told me "that may have passed with another examiner, and youve got to learn how to plat the game". Be Safe! Mo
"just because weve done it that way fo r so long, doesnt necessarily make it right"
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RE:THE NEW AFA Certified written 22 Jan 2005 14:51 #14

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Moses Shaw wrote:
Bob Menker told me "that may have passed with another examiner, and youve got to learn how to plat the game". Be Safe! Mo

That's something I'm not looking forward to. It's not that I wouldn't learn anything during the certification process because the Lord knows that I don't know everything but I'm having trouble finding the motivation to learn to do it how they want it done for the test.

Your shoe may have worked just fine on a horse but that's not what was being testsed. What was being tested was your ability to make the shoe they specified...period. Normally to forge a good square corner (inside and out) you have to pull some stock back into the corner either by upsetting first or by drawing it back as you forge the corner.

Another slick way to do it that makes it easy to accurately place the corner (especially when using wide, thin stock) is to cut the stock on the inside not quit all the way through. Scarf the ends, bend the 90 letting the cut ends overlap and weld. The result is a perfectly square corner (inside and out) with uniform stock thickness and width. It's still a good idea to bump the area up to avoid thining where you blend the edges of the weld. I don't know that I'd mess with this on a horse shoe but no one would be able to complain about your corners.
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RE:THE NEW AFA Certified written 23 Jan 2005 01:06 #15

Mike its not bad at all, its just that its subjective and always will be, as with anything that is judged. Be safe Mo
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