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RE:I give. 12 Feb 2006 18:06 #31

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Skinfaxi wrote:
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Forgewizard: I do not have an anvil. I neither require one just now, as I am merely trimming, or have the funds to run out an buy one. When I can get one I will. I will have one before I start shoeing school, I know I will need TONS of forge time before hammering on a hoof. I am building a forge and have a length of RR track to hammer around on. Not the best for learning to shape, but better than nothing.


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Many moons ago, when I started there was a man who shod his own horses. That's all he did. I told him I would shoe his horses for the use of his tools-

I started with nothing, but when I was able to afford my own tools I replaced or had sharpened or re-tooled the man's borrowed tools.

What goes around comes around-
1 anivil
1 anvil stand
1 forge
1 set of tongs
1 set of complete set hand tools
1 book on business
supplies to get you started.

Just send them back in the same or better condition when you can afford to.
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RE:I give. 12 Feb 2006 23:29 #32

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That's good. We have been passing around an old Jim Poor clipping hammer here and I think it is someplace north of Dallas now. We gave instruction to pass it on accordingly.

Jeff
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RE:I give. 13 Feb 2006 02:06 #33

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Jaye Perry wrote:
I started with nothing, but when I was able to afford my own tools I replaced or had sharpened or re-tooled the man's borrowed tools.

I too had the same experiance fortunatly.. The man was my dad. Im still useing his nippers as a matter of fact (someone cut wire with mine as you may recall from a thread a while back) =] In fact a good freind in town still throws me stuff when I break somthing or run out of stock. Most farriers are really great about helping each other out.. I've only met one farrier who hates everybody around him who shoes (thinks they are all out to steal his business), and even he gave me a duval pad cutter. so I think that says a lot about the people in the profession..

Thats a very good thing.. I wish I was in the position to lend tools out to trusted individuals starting in the trade. I plan to lend my time out helping a girl in CT getting her truck together however.

Red said this can be a thankless profession. I have to agree at times. But 9 outa 10 times I think this is such a rewarding profession... Seeing lame horses go off sound, happy owners. People complimenting your work, and just knowing your doing something great. Not to mention some days you make more than a lot of people do in a week. Then you relize you have to chase it with expenses..

Still I say everyday how I am very proud to be doing this.Think when your out there at a barn on a beutiful day forging a shoe, trimming, nailing, whatever and some kid (and a lot of times the adults too) is standing there in amazment... Think that some poor shmuck is sitting in an office biting his nails becuase he didnt put the the new cover letter on his TPS reports. =]

I love this life.

Dont give up, you'll be so happy you never did everytime see someone flippin burgers.

Sure its not all sunshine, clean isles, and happieness. Its a lot of wet mud and frustration as well. But at the end of the day you still feel so good with what you've acomplished.

Josh
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RE:I give. 13 Feb 2006 02:54 #34

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Think that some poor shmuck is sitting in an office biting his nails becuase he didnt put the the new cover letter on his TPS reports. =]

I love this life.

Dont give up, you'll be so happy you never did everytime see someone flippin burgers.

This reminder inspires me. I hate the factory I work in, and this is an honorable and satisfying way out. I'm calling Rick tomorrow, and I just e-mailed another localish AFA member, John Voigt. Tomorrow I am going out to get me a new pair of boots and that pair of nippers I need so much. I'm done with never getting the things I need so that others can have the things they want.
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RE:I give. 13 Feb 2006 14:17 #35


I'm done with never getting the things I need so that others can have the things they want.
Now THAT'S the ticket!

You go girl! Don't let anything stand in your way!

You know that saying that "God never gives you more than you can handle."? Well, I look at it like this: "god must have an awfule lot of faith in me - because he sure challenges me!" I do soooo love a challenge! :)

You will do whatever you set your mind to do.

Regards,
Kim
Regards,
Kim

Those who only consider cost, do NOT consider the cost to the horse!

The more we know, the more we know we need to know more! Ya know?
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RE:I give. 13 Feb 2006 16:06 #36

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Sarah,
The very next thing you should do is fall on your knees and thank the Lord for people like the folks here who are willing to help you out with tools and time. You just got an oppertunity most just dream of.
I sent most of my extra tools to someone, but I have to clean out a shed and will look for something you can use.
Reading this thread made me think about the wack I got last summer that kept me down for six weeks. Never thought of do something else, in fact I got in a bunch of trouble for finishing up the horses with my son befor I called the wife.
The only time I consider changing jobs is once in a while thinking about track shoeing, but I get it out of my system quick.

Kim,
How can someone as tough as you put on those funny colored shoes? Will remember your Dad in our prayers.
Bill

A rightous man regardeth the life of his beast. Proverbs 12:10
I don't give a damn for a man who can only spell a word one way. Mark Twain
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RE:I give. 13 Feb 2006 17:19 #37

SlowShoe

"MMMM..YEAH. YOU SEE, WE'RE PUTTING THE COVERSHEETS ON ALL TPS REPORTS NOW BEFORE THEY GO OUT. DID YOU SEE THE MEMO ABOUT THIS?

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I've got the memo right here, but, uh, uh, I just
forgot. But, uh, it's not shipping out until tomorrow, so there's no
problem.

yeeeahh, If you could just go ahead and make sure you do that from now on,
that will be great. And Uh, I'll go ahead and make sure you get another
copy of that memo Mmmm, Ok?"

Been there, never ever go'n back....



Doug
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RE:I give. 13 Feb 2006 17:59 #38

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This thread reminds me of what I had when I first started...tools on loan from my teacher that I piled in the back of my 1980 Chevette which was also my first new car. I also used his shop because I lived in an apartment.

I used his tools until he figured that I had enough work that I should be able to buy my own and then he gave me notice. I got off my butt and went out and baught my own...and he was right, I could afford it.

I wore my first set of nippers down to nothing and eventually had to replace them. I had to replace my clinchers because they disappeared out of my in-laws barn. I still have many of my original tools though.

I gave away my first gas forge but my coal forge, anvil stand and a box full of punches and other odds and ends disappeared from a clients barn where I had a little shop set up. I'm 99% sure that I know who took the stuff...another farrier who was in and out of there after I moved out of town...but the joke is on him. If he needed the stuff that bad, he's welcome to it and all he needed to do was ask. He didn't ask though, so he's a snake and we all know it so he traded off his honor pretty cheap.

I doesn't seem like it when you're first starting but this is a pretty low capitol business as far as what you absolutely have to have to get started. A few hundred bucks will get you enough shiny new tools and stock to get a few shoes fit and nailed on. Comapare that to something like the dive shop I used to own where I had 30K or so cash in it before I ever opened the doors and the show room was still mostly empty. Mind you that was just the bare essentials and I dumped that much in several times again over the next few years and I still walked away with nothing in my pockets but bills. Then of course there was the engineering gig where my education cost me that much and it took me 15 years to pay for.

This is a great trade in lots of ways, not the least of which, is the low overhead and the freedom we have. So what if the work is a little on the hard side? I have yet to find a way to get someone to pay me very much for something that was easy.
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RE:I give. 13 Feb 2006 18:01 #39

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Bill, I already have. I am amazed at the brotherhood of farriers, even the apparent "bad ones." This attitude is so rare and precious these days, it is one of the things that has kept me settled, focused, and less afraid.I will be eternally indebted to the people who have been so kind, supportive, and helpful. I want everyone to know just how much it means to me. I only hope that one day I get the chance to return the favor. I would like to meet everyone one day so that I might thank them in person, and if I play my cards right and work hard I will be able to. That is a day I look forward to, more than the six-figure dream.

Thank you everyone, you don't know how much this means to me(or maybe you do)

(EDIT) I wasn't sure. Was Jaye offering to borrow me some of his tools? It didn't register until I read Bill's post and reread Jaye's. (let me stop crying...)

I don't know what to say. No one has ever shown me such kindness. I just...Thank you(that isn't enough to express, but it's all I can say)
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RE:I give. 13 Feb 2006 20:10 #40

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Hi all,

It's sounding like everyone started out the same way. I had a farrier beat up my precious mare and that was the day I decided I would learn to shoe my own horses so I bought Butlers book and started shoeing. I did watch a lot of farriers before that and I always had been a hands on guy. I laugh when I think of those early days when I nailed hind shoes on with the leg between my knees cuz I didn't know any better, good thing it was my own horse. It wasn't long after I started playing at shoe making with a forge I made myself and I used all those early shoes to make a coat rack so I get reminded of those early days everytime I hang up my coat in my shop. When I started I had a peice of track I welded to a sort of an a frame stand I used because the anvil I had weighs 300lb's. I did build my own gas forge and they are not too tough but a practice forge can be a simple as a piece of asbestuse pipe with a brick in it and a tiger torch for heat. With a little inginuity you can make some usefull things shown is a jack I made to fit a hitch receiver for use when I'm out riding and need to fix a shoe. I have plans for a wooded floor box. folding anvil stand and forge just e mail me.

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if i was smart enought to spell properly I probably wouldnt be shoeing friggen horses for a living ay. Red Amor

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RE:I give. 13 Feb 2006 21:49 #41

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"what would you do with a million bucks?"

"i'd tell ya what I'd do if i had a million bucks..."


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RE:I give. 13 Feb 2006 22:52 #42

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I want everyone to know just how much it means to me. I only hope that one day I get the chance to return the favor.
That's what I meant- "What goes around comes around."




....... That is a day I look forward to, more than the six-figure dream.
Work hard to learn the skills; That just doesn't mean banging around some metal. It is an all encompassing job. Other skills in this job include learning to handle horses, people and money

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(EDIT) I wasn't sure. Was Jaye offering to borrow me some of his tools? It didn't register until I read Bill's post and reread Jaye's. (let me stop crying...)
No need to fret, just give me a shipping address and some time to gather the items to be shipped.

When Mr. Buerton has had his way with ya, I'll fly ya down and you can work/learn some more.

Jaye
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RE:I give. 14 Feb 2006 01:32 #43

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Tell ya what
you pair a bastards are all right , ya know that

Good on ya mate ay ;)
Mark Anthony Amor
If we want anymore excrement like that outta you we'll squeese ya head :eek:
Mind how ya go now ;)
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RE:I give. 14 Feb 2006 01:45 #44

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Red Amor wrote:
Tell ya what
you pair a bastards are all right , ya know that

Good on ya mate ay ;)
When it's July down under- Winter- you have an open invitation to come to HOT'Lanta RED.

I promise, It will be good on Ya Mate!!!:D
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RE:I give. 14 Feb 2006 03:15 #45

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Sarah, you will find this bunch of men and women to be more than helpful. They may bicker and argue or disagree on here about different subjects, but when the chips are down for someone andthat person needs help, these people really step up and show what a good and wonderful and honorable profession this is. It was no surprise to me when Jaye made the offer he did. I had a feeling something of that nature would happen. These people are great.

When my truck was stolen and I lost everything many of the people here sent me tools and supplies and comfort at a time when I was devastated. Without there help I may not have made it through, I may have been out of the shoeing business, but with there generous help I made it through just fine. Some day, hopefully sooner than later, I will be in a position to offer the same kind of help to some one else and repay my debt to the profession if not to some of these people specifically. All I can say to them still and over and over again is thank you. Thank you very much from the bottom of my heart. Sarah, just remember what Jaye said, "What comes around goes around", when you get the chance, pay it forward. ;)

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