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RE:How to be a good helper 19 Jul 2011 20:48 #16

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Joey Aczon wrote:

Also, don't be overly eager. I think I'd cut off my own foot with a old hot rasp before taking on an apprentice like Kim. There are a lot of things that are just going to be too far over your head at first. Trying to learn the "advanced" stuff right away will only distract you from getting the basics right. Focus on the basics, you will get to the more advanced stuff eventually. In any case, even the advanced stuff is about meticulous attention to detail with a coule little twists anyway.

And if you want to spend a day in the forge, chip in for propane.

Never thought that being eager was a bad thing. When I did get to ride with someone, I did as I was told and asked questions in the truck and at lunch.

And even then wasn't a ton of questions as sometimes we just talked about politics and marketing.

Kim Turner

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Dr. House "You were right, Counts for nothing if you can't defend it."

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RE:How to be a good helper 19 Jul 2011 21:08 #17

smitty88 OFFLINE Guru Posts: 6951 Thank you received: 64 Karma: 13	Is there any farriers on the forum from the USA that have apprentices and if you have a 1st year what is exspected of he/she in there 1st year what shoemaking does he/her get and what stage of shoeing would they be at?
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RE:How to be a good helper 21 Jul 2011 01:43 #18

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smitty88 wrote:

Is there any farriers on the forum from the USA that have apprentices
and if you have a 1st year what is exspected

of he/she in there 1st year

what shoemaking does he/her get
and what stage of shoeing would they be at?

Smitty , I have 3,currently and i think that they are somewhat like the UK apprentices are, I have one on the way out, ready to start his own business. He is AFA certified, and working on his Journeyman. It is his second year, and he can trim, fit, and hand-make shoes to a satisfactory level. He will get his Journeyman passed before he leaves, and i will feel like i have done right by him at that point. Shoemaking is very important to me, and he has an appreciation of it as well, so he is pretty advanced for a 2nd year guy, Making Roadsters, Preventers, Bar-Shoes, Clipping with a cross-pein, bob- punch, ball-pein, shaping cold, or hot, using a stall jack, or anvil. There is not 1 horse on my book that i wouldn't trust him with. It is his first year with me, but his dad shoes horses, and he has shod for 4 years prior to working with me, mainly Race-Plating. Dealing with the people , is the only thing that i can fault him for, sometimes gets flustered, and does'nt quite know how to deal with them . I expect him to help me train the 2 guys under me, their dutys are setting up the truck every morning, keeping an inventory of supplies needed, and setting up, and breaking down, between stops, along with pulling, cleaning, shoes, and finishing, clinching. Every apprentice i have go with me is expected to go through the certification process.

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RE:How to be a good helper 21 Jul 2011 02:18 #19

Jake Whitman OFFLINE Master Posts: 1745 Karma: 0	But it is up to them on how far they want to go, if they make my day easier, i can teach them more, if i have to babysit, they won't last long.
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RE:How to be a good helper 21 Jul 2011 03:28 #20

Gary Hill OFFLINE Guru Posts: 5298 Thank you received: 6 Karma: 4	Jake, how much do you pay all that help??:cool:
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