George Geist wrote:LMAO!
Focus Mike, focus.
So does this mean you're acknowledging that Americans have much less take home pay than other developed nations due to our lack of a Public Health Service???
No. Public health service works out well sometimes for the people who are really sick. The rest just pay for something they don't use.
Want to talk car insurance? Yes is higher here than anywhere else because of the higher medical costs but am I the only one who has a problem with them or any other private business having the police department making sure you do business with them? Can you think of any other private business that has this? New Jersey waste disposal industry maybe?
Yes, waste disposal. They just decided to force me to tie into a sewer system that I don't need or wont and they're currently projecting that it's going to cost me $100/month. I just don't poop that much.
It's worth noting though that the only car insurance that's mandated by law is liability insurance and my liability insurance doesn't cost much at all.
Additionally, not everybody drives and it's widely accepted that driving is a privilege.
By contrast, our new individual health care mandate is literally a tax on life itself. At one time, we considered life to be a "creator" given right. you know? Life liberty and the pursuit of happiness and all that?
Not any more. Now living obligates you to purchase a health insurance policy that even covers wellness care? What kind of nut goes to the doctor when they're well?
The point is that the sort of policy that I would like to have will now be illegal. Namely, a high deductible major medical policy. Certainly such a policy would make sense for healthy young people.
Did you also know that the folks who were under the TVA only paid about 1/3 of the cost for electricity as the rest of the privatized country?
How do you kill a river? There's probably more than one way but the TVA got the job done.
Add all this stuff up I'll bet you'll find the compulsory payments for these things adds up to much more than the Irish tax rate which includes all this stuff.
They also have subsidized railroads, telephones, education, the list goes on. Check it out. They don't even have them danged gubmint infernal revenuers who done went and shot ol' grampappy for makin' whisky back in the day:)
George
Well, we have tons of subsidized education (how's your property tax bill?) and trains, though, I don't have any use for trains. I sure don't need anybody else to pay for my phone.
To your question "which cosats more?" that would depend on which and how much of the socialized services you use. To the greater point, which is least expensive isn't even the biggest issue for me. My question is which results in the greatest degree of individual liberty while still taking reasonable steps to restrain one person from
causing harm to another?
Liberty. It's about liberty. We all die and many of us are going to die horrible deaths no matter how much of our earnings the government confiscates or what they promise us. How much of a slave do you want to be between now and the time you fall?