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RE:clinic in magnoila texas..any info on the clinician? 21 Apr 2011 14:16 #16

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Bruce, It would be great to see ya there. It is my intent to teach horse owners and farriers a better understanding. I try to go back and forth between scientific terms and lay terms. Certain aspects of learning to look at radiographs requires learning some scientific terms and anatomy which I sure you already have a grasp on. If you come to the clinic and you feel I am confusing the farrier population with scientific jargon, please do not hesitate to raise a hand and say Slow down Doc. I get pretty excited about this stuff and I have to slow myself down when speaking to groups about it. Again I hope to see you there!

For a good reference on parameters we will be looking at go to this link.
http://www.nanric.com/soft_tissue_parameters_illustrations.asp

and this one: http://www.nanric.com/interpret_lesions.asp

This one has actual radiographs with descriptions of the parameters.
http://www.nanric.com/soft_tissue_parameters.asp

ENJOY
Sammy L. Pittman, DVM
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RE:clinic in magnoila texas..any info on the clinician? 15 May 2011 03:16 #17

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Hello everyone, We had a great clinic with lots of hands on experience. It was good to meet a couple of fellow forum members and I hope you enjoyed the clinic. I would appreciate any feedback good or bad that you may have, as it will help us make it better and better. I have a few cases posted on my blog at www.innovativeequinepodiatry.com then click on the blog link. I strongly recommend attending Dr. Reddens clinic this fall here in Tulsa, Ok. I hope to see you there.

Below is one case with moderate heel pain, long digital breakover and poor digital alignment. Note the immediate improvement.

Hope to see more you at the next clinic!

Thanks and all the best

Sammy
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RE:clinic in magnoila texas..any info on the clinician? 17 May 2011 12:53 #18

docsam03 wrote:
Hello everyone, We had a great clinic with lots of hands on experience. It was good to meet a couple of fellow forum members and I hope you enjoyed the clinic. I would appreciate any feedback good or bad that you may have, as it will help us make it better and better. I have a few cases posted on my blog at www.innovativeequinepodiatry.com then click on the blog link. I strongly recommend attending Dr. Reddens clinic this fall here in Tulsa, Ok. I hope to see you there.

Below is one case with moderate heel pain, long digital breakover and poor digital alignment. Note the immediate improvement.

Hope to see more you at the next clinic!

Thanks and all the best

Sammy


I am ignorant to these shoes because I have never applied or seen them. I can understand how they are beneficial but also seems that they would provide less stability for the performing horse?
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RE:clinic in magnoila texas..any info on the clinician? 17 May 2011 22:07 #19

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Gilreath Horseshoeing wrote:
I am ignorant to these shoes because I have never applied or seen them. I can understand how they are beneficial but also seems that they would provide less stability for the performing horse?

I guess this is an approach that a person has to see and to do before you realize how the mechanics work. There are many performance horses wearing the rocker shoe. Many of which cannot compete in any other device. Jill moody won a couple of rounds of the nfr in rocker shoes, I have several navicular cases that run barrells, cut, rope an rein wearing the rocker shoe. Just like everything, it is how it is applied. I would strongly suggest attending one of Dr Ric Reddens lecture. He is here in tulsa in october and san antonio in november. Jimbo and I may also be doing another basic clinic in Austin texas somtime this summer. Look at reddens website nanric.com and read some of the articles in the archive section.
I can tell you all about it and that it works and plenty of stability, bla,bla,bla, but until you see/do it it can be difficult to understand.

Next time you have time to kill just rocker som used flat steel shoes and set a foot down on it. Move the most convex portion of the belly forwards and backwards to see the affects of placement. Do they rock forward, backward or set in the middle. Ideally the most convex portion of rocker should be at or behind the widest part of the hoof. If it is forward of that point the hoof will rock backward and in increase in ddft tension is expected. Maybe this would be considered unstable but it is also improper application.

What would be your definition of instability?
A lame horse in a flat shoe with plenty of stability and support is more unstable than a sound horse that requires a rocker shoe imo.
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RE:clinic in magnoila texas..any info on the clinician? 17 May 2011 23:34 #20

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docsam03 wrote:

What would be your definition of instability?

Personally I don't like how only the toe and heels load the foot. I haven't really used the banana shoe so that's just an initial observation.

Shoes like the banana, rockerbar, navicular relief, are good shoes for farriers to use because they let you understand what's going on in the foot a little more.

They may appear to be unstable, you have to realize where the weight is coming down into the foot. As long as the rocker is back far enough, the foot can load without the possibility of rocking back.

I haven't thought much about these types of shoes on the front limb, on the back limb I prefer a shoe without the banana effect.
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RE:clinic in magnoila texas..any info on the clinician? 18 May 2011 14:36 #21

docsam03 wrote:
Well I forget how small the world is thanks to the internet. I really haven't considered that Farriers from this website would be potential attendees to the clinic in Magnolia. This is the second clinic that I have been involved in with Jimbo Stewart. We are both students of Dr. Redden, he being involved much longer than myself. Jimbo was present when the evolution of the first venograms and rocker/banana shoes was happening. He has a lot of experiences with the rocker shoe to share. We met at one of Dr. Ric Reddens clinics and put on our first clinic in Norman Ok in January of this year.
Myself, I am a 2003 graduate of Oklahoma State University College of Vet Med. I grew up learning to shoe horses on the ranch and in a packing outfit in northern California. I have always had a great passion for the hoof and limb mechanics/dynamics. I was exposed to Dr. Redden shortly after graduating vet school and have been on a podiatry road ever since. I really liked how in depth that Dr. Redden evaluated radiographs and external hoof characteristics. Everyone knows that a graduating veterinarian learns as much about hoof mechanics and disease as a Farrier learns about cardiology! So I am just a guy that graduated vet school that has persued a higher level of education regarding the mechanics, diagnosis and treatment of common hoof ailments. Along the way I have developed my farriery skills but I am sure they are still lacking.

It will be a laid back environment in which we will spend some lecture time in the morning and hands on demo shoeing and trimming in the afternoon. Lots of radiographs will be taken and you will be exposed to a very in depth way to evaluate foot radiographs and give you some external markers to help find the coa.

So, Yes don't waste your money if you have no inclination to further your education and possibly be exposed to a different approach that may help something on your books. Whether or not you agree with the banana/rocker shoe, the manner in which I have learned to evaluate a foot from Dr. Redden and through my own experiences is above and beyond what most people have been exposed to, is worth learning. I feel there is a new standard to which all shoeing devices/orthotics must be evaluated by. The venogram and serial farrier friendly soft tissue detail radiographs are the standard at which I evaluate and monitor my treatment success or failure. My radiographs and venograms will tell me it isnt working long before the horse does.

I welcome you all to check out my blog in which I occasionally post case studies and current case work ups.

www.innovativeequinepodiatry.blogspot.com
find us on facebook and my website www.innovativeequinepodiatry.com

Thank you very much for your time and god bless!

Please don't lump us all together. Some of us do want to go to clinics; but unless it is held at new bolton; I couldn't go.

Linda Muggleworth
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