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RE:Apprenticeship 02 Apr 2011 14:43 #46

Rick Burten
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owen charles wrote:

That band at the top of the hoof that turns whitish in wet weather is called the coroner band Ray . Not the periople.

What is 'the coroner band'? A new group of musicians who are responsible for investigation and determining a cause of death?

The periople is the shiny out side coating of the horn.

You sure that that is all it is? ie:

1. "the layer of soft, light-colored horn which covers the coronary border of the hoof in ungulates and serves as a transition between soft skin and hard hoof wall."

2. "The Perioplic corium is a narrow ring of skin located around the top edge of the hoof. It produces the periople, that skin like appearance covering the top of the hoof wall. It has a high water content and can dry out quickly ... but also absorb water quickly."

3.http://books.google.com/books?id=CUFN_K0AHgsC&pg=PA24&lpg=PA24&dq=perioplic+ring&source=bl&ots=E15fp7K67Y&sig=lCzARWZ01FkllPw0g2Z-m2KYllM&hl=en&ei=2zGXTaPoFY6D0QG8_vDuCw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=10&ved=0CEcQ6AEwCTgU#v=onepage&q=perioplic%20ring&f=false

Patty more then likely got the words mixed up but new what she was talking about .

Which, it would appear, is more than can be said for you.

What's your excuse Ray ?

What's yours?

you haven't heard of a lot of things by the sound of it .

The 'man in the mirror' always tells the truth. Is your mirror somehow different?

Rick Burten PF

In the immortal words of Ron White: "But let me tell you something, folks: You can't fix S-tupid. There's not a pill you can take; there's not a class you can go to. S-tupid is forever."
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RE:Apprenticeship 02 Apr 2011 15:37 #47

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owen charles wrote:

Then can you show me what the coronary band is & where its located in anatomy of the limb

Does this help?

"Definition of CORONARY BAND
: a thickened band of extremely vascular tissue that lies at the upper border of the wall of the hoof of the horse and related animals and that plays an important part in the secretion of the horny walls—called also coronary cushion "

http://books.google.com/books?id=0HeO3I8MGFcC&pg=PA1&lpg=PA1&dq=stratum+tectorium&source=bl&ots=8V-uTPmJP_&sig=5jpsyQzBxYXlwetHfu-7mQuW7tU&hl=en&ei=fTuXTbqhGoK90QGWx_zyCw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=10&ved=0CEoQ6AEwCQ#v=onepage&q=stratum%20tectorium&f=false Scroll down to figure 1-3

.....& it would be very helpful if you could tell me what that shiny coating of the horn is called.

The 'stratum tectorium'/'stratum externum'.

1. "The stratum tectorium is the thin layer of keratinized cells that give the wall its smooth shiny appearance. (http://www.equipodiatry.com/wldupdt.htm Scroll down to "Anatomy of the hoof wall")

2. http://books.google.com/books?id=odN5KmGAKCQC&pg=PA71&lpg=PA71&dq=stratum+tectorium&source=bl&ots=cavZiCD0Zq&sig=6QE5bqGB9Spv3Kl2g3eH--qpoEk&hl=en&ei=fTuXTbqhGoK90QGWx_zyCw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=7&ved=0CD4Q6AEwBg#v=onepage&q=stratum%20tectorium&f=false

3. From the 'Land Down Under', you are familiar with The Land Down Under aren't you? http://www.uq.edu.au/~apcpolli/downloads/chrispollitt_clinicalanatomy_andphysiology_ofthenormalequinefoot.pdf

4. "The hoof wall is composed of three distinct layers. The outer layer is the periople (like the human cuticle) and stratum tectorium. The periople extends about three-fourths of an inch below the coronet, except at the heels, where it caps the bulbs of the heels. The coronet encircles the upper area of the hoof and is the point of demarcation between the skin and the beginning of the hoof wall. The stratum tectorium, much like the human fingernail, extends down to the bottom of the foot. It is a thin layer of horny scales--hardened cells--that provides the hard, glossy-appearing surface below the periople. "

etc, ad nasum/ad infinatum

Rick Burten PF

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RE:Apprenticeship 02 Apr 2011 20:30 #48

Ray_Knightley OFFLINE Master Posts: 4219 Thank you received: 2 Karma: 0	owen charles wrote: Gezzzzzzz Thanks Ray http://happytreefriends.wikia.com/wiki/Flippy .I think I preference Skippy. Sorry I ment Skippy......opps Attachments: skippy%20p...6191.gif (68KB)
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RE:Apprenticeship 03 Apr 2011 12:47 #49

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owen charles wrote:

My opinion.
The apprenticeship should be tied in with schooling. Which is the case in the majority of country's.
You obtain an apprenticeship with an employer first .
The employer is subsidised by the industry for taking on an apprentice. The apprentice is paid a apprenticeship wage set by the governing body & industry. They are then enrolled at an accredited school & attend school study one day in every week during their 4 year apprenticeship.

That's the way things are done in countries having an established apprentice program, but will never happen in the States.

Mikel Dawson, RJF

(Denmark)
What part of "NO" don't you understand!!

Caution: Watch for hoof in mouth disease!!!

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RE:Apprenticeship 03 Apr 2011 12:59 #50

smitty88 OFFLINE Guru Posts: 6951 Thank you received: 64 Karma: 13	beslagsmed wrote: That's the way things are done in countries having an established apprentice program, but will never happen in the States. there lies the problem
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RE:Apprenticeship 03 Apr 2011 15:05 #51

Mike Ferrara OFFLINE Guru Posts: 5057 Thank you received: 3 Karma: 0	smitty88 wrote: there lies the problem What problem?
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RE:Apprenticeship 03 Apr 2011 15:18 #52

tbloomer OFFLINE Master Posts: 4622 Thank you received: 20 Karma: 1	Rick Burten wrote: etc, ad nasum/ad infinatum Infinitely thumbing your nose? :confused:
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RE:Apprenticeship 02 Apr 2011 14:43 #46

RE:Apprenticeship 02 Apr 2011 15:37 #47

RE:Apprenticeship 02 Apr 2011 20:30 #48

RE:Apprenticeship 03 Apr 2011 12:47 #49

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RE:Apprenticeship 03 Apr 2011 15:05 #51

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