reillyshoe wrote:
Oh take that up with Baron, Pat.

Doesn't know the difference? I have a feeling that what the equipment was called depends on what you're putting in it. I've already explained why I called it a kiln but kiln or forge, the equipment was the same. Perhaps I should add the time period though...the 70's.


reillyshoe wrote:
If any advice I've given, since being allowed to post here, was truly objectionable, I think action would've already been taken.

So again, sounds like a beef you have with Baron and not me....take it up with him.

Thanks.

I have taken it up with Baron. It is clearly his sandbox, and he can make the rules. I am free, however, to object to your posting in any section entitled "Farriers helping...". People come here (farriers and horseowners) expecting help from farriers. You are not a farrier, yet you are allowed to provide advice. This is not a personal comment, but I think that is wrong. Your confusion of a kiln and a forge helps to illustrate my point about the knowledge base, and people do come here looking for advice from farriers, not trimmers. There is a difference.

reillyshoe wrote:

Yes, you can object all you want.

I want to know how much advice you think I've given. Have you really looked that closely?

I would just point out that a horse owner may be more familiar with kilns of the type I was talking about than the technical name, forge, for the same exact equipment being used to heat up shoes.

However, if there was ever any real problem for folks over this tid bit, there won't be any more.

BTW, that was some nice looking pottery Mark posted a photo of.

Anne Tree Coley wrote:

440 times. I looked closely.

reillyshoe wrote:
And the content? I mean you were referring to advice given, right?

Some of what you say is very good, although you are not a farrier. People are looking for farrier advice. If you were a farrier, you would know that a farrier works out of a forge, not a kiln.

You know the old saying, close only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades!

I seriously do think there is an important difference between your advice and the advice of farriers.

reillyshoe wrote:
Thank you. Perhaps this is why I'm allowed.

Anne Tree Coley wrote:

Your welcome, but I still don't think you should be. Being a farrier should mean something. It is about an all around education, and unfortunatley trimming is only a portion of an all around education. It absolutely needs to be done well, but someone providing advice to farriers or horseowners should also know the difference between a forge and a kiln- so I cannot support your posting here,under the guise of a farrier, in a section providing business advice to a young farrier.

michaelgalik wrote:
Depends what your horse is worth to you. I compare it to price shopping for cardiologists.

reillyshoe wrote:
kiln [kil]
(engineering)
A heated enclosure used for drying, burning, or firing materials such as ore or ceramics.
McGraw-Hill Dictionary of Scientific & Technical Terms, 6E, Copyright © 2003 by The McGraw-Hill Companies, Inc.


Ore
n.
A mineral or an aggregate of minerals from which a valuable constituent, especially a metal, can be profitably mined or extracted.

As you see, we then end up arguing about things that should not require arguing. I will refrain from posting the definition of a forge for you, but you should look it up, as it is different from the definition of a kiln.

reillyshoe wrote:
Sometimes arguments advance learning. While you will insist things are black and white, I realize gray exists.

This is an interesting type of forge. http://www.zoellerforge.com/simplegasforge.html

Atleast we kept our discussion civil. Thank you for that too.

As for my idea of a kiln, it wasn't the large ones used for pottery and I did explain that...ref. copper enameling. It was a size to fit my Farrier's rig. I couldn't imagine any farrier hauling around a brick oven type kiln. I've seen homemade forges that looked more like a wood stove...no insulated sides, only metal.

This is what I bring to the table...info based on my experiences. You have your own. I still think the crux of this has to do with your feelings (which you've expressed) towards Trimmers being here.

You've not really paid much attention to what I've been saying other than when you can find fault with it. I'll do well to ignore it in the future and stick to something more useful that has nothing to do with someone else's personal hangup.

Anne Tree Coley wrote:
I wont even bother with you your not even a farrier!

Rick Burten wrote:
I'm not worried about getting fired it's some newbie coming in trying to steal business by low balling. I'm sure you would not be bothered by a newbie coming in trying to steal your business by undercutting you instead of by skill. In this economy people may try a low baller to save money. Like I said in my area I can pretty much choose where I want to shoe. I have a list of newbies I give my overflow to.

patrick i think you should introduce this plank woman to mark caldwell he would soon put her straight
chris