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TOPIC: New to Farriery :)

New to Farriery :) 16 Mar 2010 22:48 #1

Hi all!

Firstly, nice to be here :) I was directed here by David Hayne when I emailed him some questions the other day.

I suppose this is kindof the standard "school vs not school" thread, but we all have tweaks to our personal situations, so let me quickly lay it out:

I have been attending university for the past three years (took this year off) doing a degree in metalsmithing and jewellery making. This includes fairly large scale forging with many types of metals, including steel. I have taken all practical courses, what is left is generic history and design. I am going to be leaving that school to save myself thousands of dollars when I can already do what I set out to learn.

This is relevant because I am getting mixed messages on taking formal farrier courses (I believe there is only one place in Nova Scotia, please correct me if I am wrong), a couple people said don't bother with it, one person said check it out. I personally would rather not take the course (which is eight weeks for 3,500 dollars) because A) I would rather not spend more money when I have already spent thousands on school and B) I prefer one on one training/apprenticeship.

According to my particular situation, I would appreciate any advice anyone may have about this :)

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RE:New to Farriery :) 17 Mar 2010 00:11 #2

if you got a good farrier to fallow around do that. school is great it teaches you alot. but it just gets your feet wet. most of the stuff your going to learn is going to be from exspearance. here you can just go take the test and if you pass you get your certifcation. i dont know if its the same there or not.
thats kinda of a choice you need to make. i went to school because i couldnt find a farrier that would let me fallow them. but when i got done with school i found a senior farrier that let me learn from him and he tought me a ton. i wish i would have ment him before i went to school.


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RE:New to Farriery :) 17 Mar 2010 03:43 #3

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RUN AWAY NOW:p;)
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If we want anymore excrement like that outta you we'll squeese ya head :eek:
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RE:New to Farriery :) 17 Mar 2010 12:31 #4

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Don't mind Red, he speaks 'down under. . . that translated to "Good luck and welcome to the gang" ;)

Actually, what is Tasmania Red? Down-Under-n-to-the-right? :-D
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RE:New to Farriery :) 17 Mar 2010 13:32 #5

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Hammerkast wrote:
According to my particular situation, I would appreciate any advice anyone may have about this :)
1.Finish your Degree

2. Attend Farrier School

3. Apprenticeship

In that order.
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RE:New to Farriery :) 17 Mar 2010 13:48 #6

Gary_Miller wrote:
1.Finish your Degree

2. Attend Farrier School

3. Apprenticeship

In that order.



I couldn't agree more. Honestly the best advise anyone can give you. Horses will be there when you're ready, don't worry.


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RE:New to Farriery :) 17 Mar 2010 16:04 #7

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Ronald Aalders wrote:
I couldn't agree more. Honestly the best advise anyone can give you. Horses will be there when you're ready, don't worry.


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True stuff. . . Farriery or no. . . I don't know anyone personally who says "Man, I wish I'd never finished that bachelors degree" . . . but plenty who say "Man, I wish I'd finished college"
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RE:New to Farriery :) 17 Mar 2010 23:58 #8

Ok, I pretty much expected the "finish your degree" answers, but there's too much to say about that, so I'm not going to go there :p

Anyway, I appreciate the suggestions. I have gotten a fair list of people I can ask abotu apprenticeships, I just need to figure out how it will work, since I live fairly removed from most of them (assuming that is, that one will take me on).
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RE:New to Farriery :) 18 Mar 2010 00:14 #9

The easy way is seldom the right way. Good luck!

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RE:New to Farriery :) 18 Mar 2010 00:42 #10

finish degree first,personally I would check the school out. ask them about there teachers and how many live horses you'll be getting under. If you can get good teaching mixed with working on live horses it will prepare you to start learning under a seasoned farrier when you get out. just my 2 cents
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RE:New to Farriery :) 19 Mar 2010 06:51 #11

Hammerkast wrote:
Ok, I pretty much expected the "finish your degree" answers, but there's too much to say about that, so I'm not going to go there :p

Anyway, I appreciate the suggestions. I have gotten a fair list of people I can ask abotu apprenticeships, I just need to figure out how it will work, since I live fairly removed from most of them (assuming that is, that one will take me on).

No there is nothing to say about that other than to finish it. If you don't have the endurance to finish what you started how do you think you're gonna make it as a shoer? You don't need a degree to shoe horses, but you do need the stamina that gets you a degree in the end.



Ronald Aalders

p.s. that is Mr R. Aalders, LLM to you :D (Agreed this is a little double, the Mr is Dutch qualification for the Anglo-Saxon title............) :rolleyes:
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RE:New to Farriery :) 21 Mar 2010 14:51 #12

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Hammerkast wrote:
Ok, I pretty much expected the "finish your degree" answers, but there's too much to say about that, so I'm not going to go there :p

Anyway, I appreciate the suggestions. I have gotten a fair list of people I can ask abotu apprenticeships, I just need to figure out how it will work, since I live fairly removed from most of them (assuming that is, that one will take me on).

I'm certainly not against formal education and I have a degree but they may be overrated these days. Degrees just aren't always as cost effective as some would have you believe. Generally (not always) you have to have some marketable skill to earn much of a living but then everybody has a degree, they're devalued and you still won't make a living unless you have a bigger degree.
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RE:New to Farriery :) 21 Mar 2010 17:27 #13

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I would guess that a degree in metal smithing and jewelry making has about the same value in the job market as a degree in music performance. It can get you a job teaching the arts. Not a bad fall-back position if you can't make it as an entrepreneur.

Farrier school is a good way to get an introduction to the tools and terminology which might also make you more valuable (less of a drag on production) as an apprentice since you should at least be able get under, pull shoes, clinch, and finish after 3 or 4 months at a trade school.
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Here's the deal. I'm trying to keep it simple.
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RE:New to Farriery :) 22 Mar 2010 16:16 #14

Mike Ferrara wrote:
I'm certainly not against formal education and I have a degree but they may be overrated these days. Degrees just aren't always as cost effective as some would have you believe. Generally (not always) you have to have some marketable skill to earn much of a living but then everybody has a degree, they're devalued and you still won't make a living unless you have a bigger degree.


Thank you, this is precisely the reason why I am abandoning the degree. All I have are history classes and whatnot to finish (I shouldn't say "all I have" as it's actually quite a lot), nothing to do with hands on work or even jewellery in most cases. I have known far FAR too many students in my four years in Dartmouth/Halifax who have either finished a degree (in some cases a few years ago) or not and still have no job. Secondly, I just am sucked way too dry to feed 1000s more dollars into it and to me a bachelors is not worth that much time (read: years) and money. My opinion on bachelors degrees is that they are nearly useless, unless you combine them with teaching, which is not at all what I want to do.

Anyway, I don't want this discussion to be focused on my previous schooling. The point is to get advice on the new direction I want to turn in.
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RE:New to Farriery :) 22 Mar 2010 17:07 #15

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One of the hardest things that I have had to overcome in my career, is the constant demand of horse owners that I have a degree in jewelry making before I work on their horse.

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