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Number of horses 09 Feb 2010 01:22 #1

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How many horses on your books do you guys think it takes to sustain a fulltime farrier (edit to fix spelling)
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RE:Number of horses 09 Feb 2010 01:42 #2

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In my younger days I finally set a limit that I could do about 30 horses per week (three trims equals one horse) and keep family, practice, body and mind together - I could do them in three days or six, but about thirty per week, 1500 per year if you could keep an even schedule, but no one can. Consider 1200 per year about max. The number on your books then varies with what your doing to them. All shoeing on an average seven week schedule (seven times per year), 1200/7 equals 170 on the books. 1/3 trims, 2/3 shoes equals about 120 with shoes plus an equal amount for trims or about 250 on the books. 1/2 shoes, 1/2 trims about 350. Specialty shoeing such as gaited horse perhaps 120-150.
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The older I get, the more horses I shoe, the fewer things that I can absolutely, positively fix.
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RE:Number of horses 09 Feb 2010 01:48 #3

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AS my good friend Rick Burten would say ; "IT DEPENDS"

It depends on what your expenses are....


I have cut my business in half and do fine cause I have cut my bills way down.

A person with a morgage and car payments and insurance and kids in shcool etc, needs much more horses.

Figure out what your bills amount to.
Figure out what you need to put aside for college for the kids..
Figure out what amount you want to put away for retirement.
Figure out any other bills or savings etc and then take on enough horses to cover all of this.

Pretty simple.
What I have on my book or what any other farrier has on his/her book has no bearing on your needs.
We aren't paying your bills or preparing for your future.

my 2 cents worth ;)
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RE:Number of horses 09 Feb 2010 04:25 #4

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Thanks for the replies. I figured it depends on what everyone needs Are. I was just wondering what the the average farrier has on his books , working hard and steady but not killing themselves.
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RE:Number of horses 09 Feb 2010 05:06 #5

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Yeah Clint I gave you what I considered a max. Today my mortgage is paid, my kids are on their own, the retirement account is in pretty good shape. If I cut my book back to my personal horses or even (heaven forbid) pay someone to do mine, I'm OK, but you wouldn't be and I say that W/O knowing if it's just you or you and a family. Don't know where you are in Alberta, but I've even done a bit of shoeing there - High River area.
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The older I get, the more horses I shoe, the fewer things that I can absolutely, positively fix.
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RE:Number of horses 09 Feb 2010 05:34 #6

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Thanks jack, im about 4 hours north of High River . But I know the area south of there pretty well, all my relatives live in that area. I was just tring to do some figuring so I had a goal to work up to. So I can one day do what I love fulltime.
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RE:Number of horses 09 Feb 2010 11:00 #7

Remember too that the "discount whack em and tack em" farriers charge less than half of what the competent farriers charge. So there is much less wear and tear on the body if you choose to become profecient.
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RE:Number of horses 09 Feb 2010 12:05 #8

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I have a stay at home wife,3 kids,horses and some property. It takes 275-300 horses on my books to pay for it. As things get paid off and one day the kids are self sufficiant I will work less. I have been working on a goal to work less and make more through doing more speciality work and referals. Hope this answers your question.
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RE:Number of horses 10 Feb 2010 23:58 #9

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I have been all over the map with this. I've had as many as 410 head on the books full time. Lot's of lack of sleep and painfull existance. I've been as low as 110 head while working another job but still working at shoeing 5 days a week. I've found that if I'm priced right about 270 head on a 6 to 8 week schedule keeps me plenty busy, makes me enough money, and keeps me from being tired so I can do my best work each time I pick up a foot. I still fluctuate a little between 270 and 300 depending on the time of the year since we get snow birds coming and going.
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RE:Number of horses 11 Feb 2010 03:38 #10

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you,ll have to forgive me but Id expect olmate to at least be able to spell FARRIER and know the difference between the two before offering to much help :p;)
for all ya know he could be from internal rev or what ever yeah
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If we want anymore excrement like that outta you we'll squeese ya head :eek:
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RE:Number of horses 11 Feb 2010 03:59 #11

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Red Amor wrote:
you,ll have to forgive me but Id expect olmate to at least be able to spell FARRIER and know the difference between the two before offering to much help :p;)
for all ya know he could be from internal rev or what ever yeah

Sorry didn't know it was a spelling contest. I fixed it up just for you. Internal rev, that's funny
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RE:Number of horses 11 Feb 2010 13:29 #12

Red Amor wrote:
you,ll have to forgive me but Id expect olmate to at least be able to spell FARRIER and know the difference between the two before offering to much help :p
for all ya know he could be from internal rev or what ever yeah


Red, I saw a business card from a farrier in southern Maine that had spelled it "ferrier". His sister gave me the card. When he lived up here he was a potato salesman.... or maybe that was a pertater salesman.;)

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RE:Number of horses 11 Feb 2010 13:34 #13

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a farrier is called a ferrier in france,could be the french canadian connection
chris
common sense is not needed when you have rules
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RE:Number of horses 11 Feb 2010 13:47 #14

chris bunting wrote:
a farrier is called a ferrier in france,could be the french canadian connection
chris

Oui, ( or Wa as they say up here ) but he didn't sell the Pomme de terre, no? :D:D
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RE:Number of horses 11 Feb 2010 13:52 #15

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not even french fries ?
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