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TOPIC: 13 and 14 week cycles shod... can I just say "no shoes for you!" ?

RE:13 and 14 week cycles shod... can I just say "no shoes for you!" ? 24 Jan 2010 04:21 #31

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yep, and you probably had plenty to work with too :). Sometimes the horses don't read the book.
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RE:13 and 14 week cycles shod... can I just say "no shoes for you!" ? 24 Jan 2010 12:52 #32

mybluedanube wrote:
Well the update. I went out today and the bare horses were out of balance but not horrifying due to having lots of rough ice in the paddocks for the last 2 months. One shod horse looked... fine really... he looked due but not over due. The other one that was shod the hooves were jammed and flared and as a result he was WAY WAY out of balance. He moved dramatically better once trimmed and balanced.

Since all the others can pull off a longish cycle (we settled on 10 weeks for the winter) we decided to pull the one horses shoes. He will do much better this way as it will allow some wear to the medial toe where he flares.

I was floored by how good one of the shod horses did on a 14.5 week cycle. I think his feet may be in better condition and I actually had to widen the heels on his upright hoof so it certainly didn't do harm.

thanks for all the help


Wait until spring and see what happens :eek:
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RE:13 and 14 week cycles shod... can I just say "no shoes for you!" ? 24 Jan 2010 15:29 #33

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Rick Talbert wrote:
yep, and you probably had plenty to work with too :). Sometimes the horses don't read the book.

Something my friend Steve W. (houston farrier) says is "horses don't read shoeing textbook's and veterinary manuals."
Joey Aczon

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RE:13 and 14 week cycles shod... can I just say "no shoes for you!" ? 24 Jan 2010 15:41 #34

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It is not good for the horses, but it is also not a good advertisement of your name and reputation in the area. After all, if the work looks bad and someone asks the owner who they use....it is your name that is attached.

I certainly remember starting in the business with some clients that other farriers did not want (for reasons like this). I remember telling one client that in the future, they would be charged as if they were trimmed every 8 weeks. If they chose to go to 16 weeks, they would be charged twice as much. I said this in a nice way, and explained the reasons why horses needed to be trimmed frequently. They kept regular appointments for a while, which benefited everyone. Ultimately, it is the owners responsibility to care for the horse.
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RE:13 and 14 week cycles shod... can I just say "no shoes for you!" ? 25 Jan 2010 02:16 #35

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reillyshoe wrote:
It is not good for the horses, but it is also not a good advertisement of your name and reputation in the area. After all, if the work looks bad and someone asks the owner who they use....it is your name that is attached.

I certainly remember starting in the business with some clients that other farriers did not want (for reasons like this). I remember telling one client that in the future, they would be charged as if they were trimmed every 8 weeks. If they chose to go to 16 weeks, they would be charged twice as much. I said this in a nice way, and explained the reasons why horses needed to be trimmed frequently. They kept regular appointments for a while, which benefited everyone. Ultimately, it is the owners responsibility to care for the horse.

There you go again with that platinum tongue of yours.
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RE:13 and 14 week cycles shod... can I just say "no shoes for you!" ? 25 Jan 2010 03:14 #36

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I maintain all clients on a 6/8 week schedule, which is mutually agreed upon at our initial meeting. I never have had anyone demand a longer schedule, but have had some mention it at times, whereupon the topic was politley discussed and then dismissed. I will not take a client that is unwilling to agree to these terms, nor have I ever had anyone refuse. I am sure that "the word is out", and those who have heard of my conditions who want a longer schedule just won't call, and that works great for me.
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RE:13 and 14 week cycles shod... can I just say "no shoes for you!" ? 25 Jan 2010 03:31 #37

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Donnie Walker wrote:
a 6/8 week schedule

I always try for 5 and visibly wince at suggestions of 6 weeks. Very few get out past 6 weeks.

Maybe hooves just grow faster down here in Godzone. :confused:
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RE:13 and 14 week cycles shod... can I just say "no shoes for you!" ? 25 Jan 2010 03:56 #38

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Anthony_Lawrence wrote:
I always try for 5 and visibly wince at suggestions of 6 weeks. Very few get out past 6 weeks.

Maybe hooves just grow faster down here in Godzone. :confused:

Quite possibly.

Environment (summer vs. winter - dry vs. wet), nutrition, breed, age and exercise are determining factors in my area.
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