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RE:How long does it take? 15 Nov 2009 22:03 #31

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John Emsley wrote:
If I'm the John you're talking to, there's no trouble here, I've made a lot of money, enjoyed doing it, and haven't had to charge outrageous prices. I make on average $125-$200 an hr. with the normal prices that I charge, which is the average around here. IMO a very decent wage. :D
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There's nothing wrong with that but I wonder what you consider "outrageous". You have to compare apples to apples. Not everyone has the same type of business.

For example, how far do you typically travel? A lot of guys who "specialize" travel a lot. I don't travel as much as some guys but I travel quite a bit. I dropped some of the real far stuff but I still have one account that's almost 200 miles away. I know some guys who are only home a few days a month in the summer.

When I do work close to home, I feel like it was a day off but the local stuff just doesn't really hold my interest and I don't think there's enough of it to make much of a living anyway.
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RE:How long does it take? 15 Nov 2009 22:13 #32

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Whats the Specialize bit
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RE:How long does it take? 15 Nov 2009 22:38 #33

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Whats the Specialize bit

A couple examples of what I would consider specialties might be long footed show horses. Most farriers don't do them and have never done them. Maybe drafts. Lots of farriers don't want to do them and lots of us have never put on a scotch bottom show shoe. Cutting, reining, trotters or other speed horses maybe? Lameness might be considered a specialty at a certain level...like working in a clinic.
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RE:How long does it take? 15 Nov 2009 22:46 #34

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Mike Ferrara wrote:
There's nothing wrong with that but I wonder what you consider "outrageous". You have to compare apples to apples. Not everyone has the same type of business.

For example, how far do you typically travel? A lot of guys who "specialize" travel a lot. I don't travel as much as some guys but I travel quite a bit. I dropped some of the real far stuff but I still have one account that's almost 200 miles away. I know some guys who are only home a few days a month in the summer.

When I do work close to home, I feel like it was a day off but the local stuff just doesn't really hold my interest and I don't think there's enough of it to make much of a living anyway.
"Outrageous" is subjective, but it would mean that I'd be making about $400 an hr. if I charged the $400 price for 4 new shoes of regular everyday shoeing. As for traveling, I limit my distance to any client around 70 miles, which translates into 1 1/2 hrs travel one way.
No one should get me wrong, I don't begrudge anyone that gets those high end prices, even though there are those that somehow equate price with quality of work and knowledge. :cool: Something like Leonardo Da Vinci spitting on a canvas and selling it for a million, just because he painted the Mono Lisa. Tiger Woods got 3 million just for appearing this week. Maybe there's more Tigers and Da Vincis shoeing horses than I realize. :D
Regarding specialized shoeing, I think most of us that have been full time for many years, have found ourselves doing specialized procedures from time to time and definitely charge more for those cases. These cases require much study and research, which are taken into account re price.
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