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Two different schools. 11 Nov 2009 05:58 #1

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Hi there.

My name is Rozlyn and for the last two-three years I've been considering a career in farriery. I came THIS close to applying to kwantlen in BC here, but at the last minute decided against it because I was scared of relocating for school. (I had just had my son seven months previously)

So now I'm looking again, and I've found a couple schools that I'm quite interested in. The Canadian Horseshoeing School and The Maritime Farrier School.

I'm curious if anyone has any input on either of these schools. I want to make sure I make the right choice, and I don't want to leave Canada to go to school.

Depending on where I go, I'm confident I won't leave for school until sometime in the new year, and I've currently been making arrangements to shadow a couple established farriers here in Prince George.

I like what I've seen so far, but want to make sure I have a real passion for it, and don't get suckered into the idea of "Oh, I just want to work with horses so badly!"

On the other hand, I get a weird sense of satisfaction simply cleaning out hooves, so I'm hoping I get the same...feeling, when shoeing, ha.

I've been doing so much reading, it feels like my eyes are going to bug out of my skull.

I've seen what a difference proper farrier work can make, it's incredible!

I'm willing to have to work a part time job inititally, in order to make ends meet before I get established.

My husband and I have talked about it, and even if I have to stay somewhere else for three or more months, we'll make it work.

I get such a sense of joy being able to make any small difference, I feel like this could be what I'm really geared to do.

The only other 'job' that has given me this same feeling, is what I do on a volunteer basis, instructing theraputic riding for children and adults with special needs/broken homes.

I'm sorry, I'm rambling. I am much better when speaking!

Thanks so much for any replies

Rozlyn
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RE:Two different schools. 11 Nov 2009 19:05 #2

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I trained along side G Laverty the teacher at Kwantlen
and he has my vote
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RE:Two different schools. 11 Nov 2009 20:33 #3

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Thanks for the reply!

That's good to hear. That's the only one that's in my province, ha.

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RE:Two different schools. 11 Nov 2009 20:54 #4

smitty88 wrote:
I trained along side G Laverty the teacher at Kwantlen
and he has my vote
Ditto sort of,
Although I didn't train or work with him, I know him, and his very high standard.
It was my school where I trained and he took over shortly there after.

PS, Even though - - - My endorsment is hardly equal to that of Johns. :D
It is the top choice in NA hands down.

:o I would think in the US Chris Gregory would likely be the next pick ???
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RE:Two different schools. 11 Nov 2009 21:56 #5

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I like that at Kwantlen it's a nine month course. I also like that you can do a three month installment, go work for a bit and then come back.

I also found on the internet, a week long course in Calgary. Even though I don't know much yet, I feel it's probably good sense to not look any further into that one.

Ha, I'll almost definetly have to move in order to get myself established though.

16 farriers that I know of!

I've been on the kwantlen website quite a bit, but am having a hard time finding out if there's a waitlist or anything for this program.

PS- should anyone want to apprentice me, I'll relocate! (Ha, blatant adversting! that won't get me banned will it?! :confused: )

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RE:Two different schools. 11 Nov 2009 22:12 #6

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Rozlyn27 wrote:
I like that at Kwantlen it's a nine month course. I also like that you can do a three month installment, go work for a bit and then come back.

I also found on the internet, a week long course in Calgary. Even though I don't know much yet, I feel it's probably good sense to not look any further into that one.

Ha, I'll almost definetly have to move in order to get myself established though.

16 farriers that I know of!

I've been on the kwantlen website quite a bit, but am having a hard time finding out if there's a waitlist or anything for this program.

PS- should anyone want to apprentice me, I'll relocate! (Ha, blatant adversting! that won't get me banned will it?! :confused: )

be the 17th and let them do the moving:D
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RE:Two different schools. 11 Nov 2009 22:17 #7

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I like your style smitty. I like your style!

A friend of mine who wanted to do this as a career so badly, had it cut short when she had a pretty severe accident via horseback riding that's ruined her knee. So she and her husband have offered their whole herd as practice for me.

It's pretty exciting to find such support already, and I haven't even gone to school yet.

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RE:Two different schools. 12 Nov 2009 01:32 #8

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So pretty cool thing just happened, at least from my perspective.

Went to dinner as an early b-day gift from my dad and told him about my future plans (Currently I'm in school for social work, and frankly have no taste for it). He gave me a look and kind of laughed it off.

Then I explained. Everything. From school to how I plan on getting established. And he started to take me seriously!

We talked about gov't grants, and I even asked if he would support me if I ended up needing help, financially or otherwise..and he said yes!

None of you know me, but this is huge.

Kind of gives me a little more faith in the future, knowing I have a safety net.

So my husband is up for it, my dad is supportive and I have friends who will help out.

I'm defiently getting more excited by the day! Time to find a school!!!

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RE:Two different schools. 12 Nov 2009 02:09 #9

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I strongly suggest you find a farrier to ride with.
In your case perhaps a woman farrier would be a good start cause you will see her do things you may think you couldn't.
Most farriers will let you get under a horse and get the feel of tools and find out what it is really like working under a horse.
Remember each horse is different and have different attitudes and mannerisms and you need to be able to cope with all of them.
No matter what you decide going to school is a big expense.
Coming out of school and begining your own business is another challenge.
Copeing with rejection when a customer fires you is a challenge.
Constant studying for years to come, to develope your own style and find out what horses you prefer to work on.
The cost of all the tools and materials and replacing items every month.
A truck or van and setting it up to travel in all weather.
Speaking of weather, it means working in all kinds of conditions and to start many customers will have their horses outside.
(as time goes on you will filter these customers out for those with barns)
Do you realize that out of every class of 12 students it is rare that 2 or 3 are still working in the farriery trade 3 years later.

Look at all of these and ponder them before making a large cash investment.
Passion is wonderful and it excites all of us, but reality is this is a business and that means committment.

Sore fingers from file cuts, knuckles scraped by filing them instead of the hoof.
Nails catching your fingers or driven into your legs or hooking your apron and the horse pulls you with it and you can't get loose.

IF and I say IF, you can say yes to all of these then go to school and become a farrier.

Remember school is a place to study and practice practice and practice.

School sound like a long time but it goes by faster than any student realizes.
Go into this with the attitude you are going to be the very best and you will succeed.

Good luck on your decision and remember the studying never stops with school. It will continue on for the rest of your life and career as a farrier continues.
Take off the blinders and learn every method of doing things you can because what works on one horse may not work on another.

Remember learning to use the tools is only part of being a true farrier.
There is forge work, and being a horseman.(learning to work with and under the horses)
Understand the horses you work on.
Figure out why they do what the do and react accordingly.

Remember SAFETY for you and the horse.

my 2 cents worth ;)
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RE:Two different schools. 12 Nov 2009 02:22 #10

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Sound Wisdom Bruce!:cool:
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RE:Two different schools. 12 Nov 2009 04:49 #11

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Thank you for all the input.

I like the idea of finding a women farrier over a man to ride with inititally. I never would have thought of that.

Obviously other work I've done is a great deal different from this position.

The only thing I can say that makes me think I'll be able to handle it physically is when I used to work at a mine. Since I'm not qualified to operate shovels and mills and grinders, I was regulated to conveyor belt maintanence.

Which meant lots, I mean LOTS of shoveling rock, twelve hours of being outside in winter (or metal boxes suspended in the air), shoveling ice and rock. I seriously considered quitting at first, but as weird as it sounds, I adapted to what a harsh enviroment it was.

I've read lots of things warning about how it's very difficult to become established in this profession and the only thing I know is I won't know unless I try. Worst case scenario, I end up being an amazingly proficient hobby farrier!

I definetly have the passion for it, but like you said, passion is not enough. I expect to learn for the rest of my life, and I expect at times, to say "Enough is enough! I hate horses, people, and shoes!"

But I won't know unless I try.

I'm definetly not trying to sound trite or contrary, so I dearly hope it doesn't sound that way!

I appreciate your response so much, it helps put things into a realistic light!

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RE:Two different schools. 13 Nov 2009 16:40 #12

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So I've hopefully got something set up with a women who lives in Alberta, she comes to BC every six weeks to do her clients horses here and her mother (who I spoke to) seemed more then happy to help me out. She gave me her daughters #, and said if I can't reach her, she'll get ahold of her for me, and that her daughter loves to teach and would love to have me come along. I'm very excited to go around with her!

This is the only women farrier in the area that I can find!

Her mother, also wonderfully, said if I'm interested in going to Olds College for my schooling, that they would have a place for me to stay there!

Wow..what a great first phone call!
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RE:Two different schools. 16 Nov 2009 18:38 #13

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I hope I'm not getting irritating..


Talked to the farrier from AB.

I'm going out with her when she comes through, and I couldn't be more pumped for it!

She said it's mostly trims this trip, with a couple horses for shoeing.

She told me to call her anytime, if I ever have any questions and said she'd love to have me come along.

I also spoke to my aunt in AB, and she said her farrier does take on apprentices, and if I'm interested, once I'm done school, she would give him my phone number and see if we would be able to work something out.

Now I know I have to take that with a grain of salt, but it's still pretty cool.

Oh, and the other farrier I wanted to go out with doesn't work in PG anymore, cause he couldn't keep up with the demand of his city and ours. There's a couple CJF that I'm trying to get ahold of as well.
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RE:Two different schools. 16 Nov 2009 20:06 #14

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Ok, so bad week.

My brother in law and his friend got into a bad car accident on weds. Bill (the friend) died, and my brother in law is in ICU.

A family in my hometown just lost their very new infant in a tradgedy early this morning.

And I was just informed by his ex, that a friend of mine has taken his life.

Bad week bad week bad week.

Just reminds you how fragile and short life is. Please take care of yourselves and your loved ones.
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RE:Two different schools. 02 Dec 2009 19:30 #15

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Blah.


I'm fairly frustrated with myself. Finally got my reference letters together and went to apply to kwantlen only to have my internet decide that was the time to go MIA.

Called the school today and was told to just send it a paper application and not to stress about it, since I'm applying a little to late to get in for Sept. But I might still get in for Jan.

I'm frustrated, but who knows, this could work out well. I really want to go to Olds badly, so I'm keeping my fingers crossed. I can't apply for there until June.

Either or, I'm pretty sure I'll be going to school next January. So yay...but not yay.
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