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RE:picking up work 20 May 2009 12:40 #46

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They still pay people to "pump" gas up there in Maine?:eek:

Well, heck ya they do. You have a choice of a cord wood or venison.
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RE:picking up work 20 May 2009 22:34 #47

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So im starting to seriously loose hope about this career field as each dat passes.

You just need to talk to the right people.
and i know building a successful bussiness takes time and you got to pay your dues, but that seems to be my problem. I cant seem to pic up any work i have a few clients here and there but nothing to keep me busy.

Just because you went to shoeing school doesn't mean you're ready to go shoe horses.
what would be your suggestion to picking up any type of work.

Serve a long apprenticeship first.
Ive called 90 farriers in a 100 mile radious. and i got declined by 87 of them. and the other 3 i just never heard back from.

This was sounding like a serious post at first. You don't really expect anyone to believe 87 farriers actually called you back do you? LOL
But tell me something how do you get experience in a job if you dont get hired by anyone?

You don't! You should probably start hitting the chapter meetings.
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RE:picking up work 20 May 2009 22:45 #48

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Big Daddy is the "rainmaker" bringing in the accounts. :D

I picked up four pro-level barrel horses for me today along with 15 more to shoe for the help.;)
Jeff Holder

Some people are like Slinky’s, pretty much useless but make you smile when you push them down the stairs.
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RE:picking up work 20 May 2009 23:07 #49

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tbloomer wrote:
Big Daddy is the "rainmaker" bringing in the accounts. :D

He must be your idle "keyboard shoer".
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RE:picking up work 20 May 2009 23:12 #50

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I don't think Jeff's a "keyboard shoer." He's offered to come and help me a bit and I'm half a (Texas) state away.
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RE:picking up work 21 May 2009 02:17 #51

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I'm not talking about Jeffy. Tom is on his computer all day.
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RE:picking up work 21 May 2009 02:41 #52

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Carry on then.
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RE:picking up work 21 May 2009 04:57 #53

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I don't know how long you have been out of school but 3 years is pretty reasonable expectation for a business to make a profit...having little work the first summer is totaly reasonable.......

I starting out moving to a new area where nobody even knew me.....it was not a very good choice in reality and we grossed 8000 dollars that first year........lol. Anyway i survived and along the way have a good business while others struggle and worry about the recession we are only hoping the phone would slow down.....from a pretty pathetic start to a home three kids a few dogs and horses and some acreage.

make your clients feel important....they will refer.
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RE:picking up work 21 May 2009 16:46 #54

Picking up work is going to be hard in this economy. Learn for the man you are going with now. Shoe and trim what you can, and get a job doing anything to keep going.

You're not alone. Another came by; and he's down by 15%; and he is one of the best F-T shoers around. Been in this business 20 years now. Backyard horses that he has had down or gone. People got P-T jobs to keep their horses only to see the job go. He was able to pick up a carriage company of driving horses that do special occasions to keep him going. The other guy only shoeing P-T again, and he's been shoeing 10+ years. He had to get another job to support his wife and 3 kids.
Every guy I know in this area is gone down in their businesses. They have told me personally, things are not great. Many here are owned thousands of dollars. Platers are having a hard time collecting their money, too!! The average plater gets $110 per horse and $120 with No-Vibe pads, and the average shoer on the outside is getting $100- $115; $125 with borium; $135 with studs; up to $150 with pads ect. Only a few are getting to the $220+ mark in this area. Average trim is $25+, and fronts are $75+.

Some have had to relocate all together; and when they do; their standard of living has gone up by 40%. To many horseshoers in the area, could be a factor, as well.
Something to think about in building your career.

good luck, hope this helps..............Linda Marie
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RE:picking up work 23 May 2009 00:30 #55

Why not try calling other guys in your area, and tell them you need a few horses to shoe? You may get junk horses to work on , but everyone with a horse has a friend that has a horse. Good work equates good referrals.
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RE:picking up work 23 May 2009 10:45 #56

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Bill Steller wrote:
I'm not talking about Jeffy. Tom is on his computer all day.
Probably seems that way to you. I can type faster than you can read. :p
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Here's the deal. I'm trying to keep it simple.
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RE:picking up work 08 Jun 2009 03:53 #57

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eurofarrier-99 wrote:
that´s the attitude that keeps you from getting the clientele, and that´s also something to be changed when you´ve been out of school for 3 years.

usability is what counts to the most owners, good looks is just +

By NO MEANS am I claiming to be all that under a horse. I have seen some REALLY shoddy work around this area. It's not unheardof for a horse to go lame or be sore after a trim or shoe, when it was sound before the farrier arrived. My mom had a horse that was shod by a guy right when I started school (good reputation, been at it 40+ years, etc), and I went to reset her after my first 8 weeks. His shoes were too short to reuse, so I ended up going into town and getting some. Shod her cold (my first and last cold shape/shoe job), and she was loping up to the feed trough that evening. Mom said she hadnt done that in a long time- she only trotted, and then short choppy strides. Trim the horse properly, and it is comfortable, and will feel better.

I DO NOT run down other farriers in the area to (prospective) clients. "....yes, I know John Public. Nice guy. Havent seen any of his work, so I cant comment on it, but he stays pretty busy...." And I also stress that it isnt fair to judge a man's shoeing ability 8 weeks after the work is done- the hoof doesnt always grow out evenly if there is conformation issues or the horse loads the foot unevenly. Plus, it keeps me from bad-mouthing other farriers, which I think is just unprofessional. Let their poor work do that.

You're right, a sound horse is a top priority for most owners, and I dont spend too much time or effort on window dressing. But when a nail line is 3/8" above the shoe, something is amiss.

I am the first to admit I dont know it all- I never will- and the day I quit learning is the day I need to find something else to do with my time and my clients' time. I learned some good basics from some good farriers, and know it will be YEARS before I get to their level, if I even get there. I am not tooting my own horn, and do not mean to be arrogant or a know it all. If I come across that way online, I apoligize. My area is just not known for great farriers, and I think it's sad on the part of local horse owners that the standard is so low at times.

Dan
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RE:picking up work 08 Jun 2009 15:24 #58

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in 1996, i was "riding bulls for a living" and wasn't winning enough to support my habit. my solution to this problem was going door to door and telling who ever was there that i was in business and was "on my way to my next appointment but i had an hour to spare and thought i'd ask if you needed any work done" the result was amazing i could gross $800/week @ $50/head.

i did this for about eight weeks and then the calls started getting alot more consistant.

if you go about things the right way, door to door is a perfectly acceptable way to advertise your business
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RE:picking up work 08 Jun 2009 16:14 #59

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Luna butte wrote:
in 1996, i was "riding bulls for a living" and wasn't winning enough to support my habit. my solution to this problem was going door to door and telling who ever was there that i was in business and was "on my way to my next appointment but i had an hour to spare and thought i'd ask if you needed any work done" the result was amazing i could gross $800/week @ $50/head.

i did this for about eight weeks and then the calls started getting alot more consistant.

if you go about things the right way, door to door is a perfectly acceptable way to advertise your business

That's an approach I haven't seen. Something to keep in mind when times get hard.

I'd also keep horseshows and horseman camp grounds on the weekends. I'd bet there's almost always someone needing something. Have tools will travel huh?
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RE:picking up work 09 Jun 2009 03:14 #60

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yea it works pretty well,
at around the same time i would pull up to the rodeo's and set up shop behind the bucking chutes. then go find some barrel racer that i knew, and have her bring her horse over and let me put my sanding block to use. before i got to the back feet, alot of times i would get to replace a shoe for someone that was just passing by, or make a couple of bucks checking clinches for the pick-up man
advertising is pretty easy if you can over yourself and go find clients instead of waiting by the phone being "too proud to look for work"
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